Topic '[civil rights] public accomodation discrimination' in forum 'General Questions' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/civil-rights-public-accomodation-discrimination-23204510 en Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:58:24 EDT Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:58:24 EDT Re: [civil rights] public accomodation discrimination http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-civil-rights-public-accomodation-discrimination-23300029
John Pinner
66 Hood RD
New York, NY 10021
212 970 2333

Phone number is to a gay sex chat, AHAHH! There is no hood rd in that zip code, i use this address and number every place. Saves me aggravation and time
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said by Ugly:

This evening I visited a nearby Pizza Hut restaurant...
This was your mistake. Don't do it again.
And I have'nt ever since.
Nor will I again.

Interestingly, I have noticed that I can wear old, smaller pants and my co-workers have asked me if I had lost weight.

Coincidence?
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Maybe their computer system keeps track of your orders so you can identify a "favorite" combination. I think Pizza Hut's online ordering system does that.

They use your phone number because they need a unique identifier for the customers. Would you rather they have your Social Security number, Facebook/MySpace/Twitter account, or credit card number? With how much phones are glued to everyone's ears in today's world, they figure that giving out a phone number isn't a big deal.
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The system works assuming you hit the reply to post and not reply to OP. PEBKAC happens here as well as on NNTP.
The "reply to %User%" in the upper left corner shows the actual post the poster replied to. If the poster replied to the OP, then the OP's post will be shown; even if the poster intended to reply to a different post than the OP.

There are two actual "Reply" buttons which bring up a compose window. At the top of the page is a button which will post a reply to the OP. At the lower right of a post is a "Reply" button which will post a reply to that particular post.

There is a link to provide a "flat" view (no threading), or a "full" view (threading). Alas, the "full" view breaks the threading when crossing pages, and if a poster used the upper "Reply" (to the OP) button, the "reply to %User%" link in his post only shows the OP, not the actual post the poster intended to reply to.

The sum total of which means that one can't reliably, in a long, multi-page thread, determine the exact threading of the messages.

By contrast, a decent NNTP client, working with posts on a NNTP server, clearly delineate the threading.

So I will reiterate: Web forums suck, when compared to New service (NNTP).
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said by AVD:

said by NormanS:

That replies to the OP, yes?
no, it tells you the post you are reading is a reply to the post that is linked.
Interesting. However, the "reply to" in the post I replied to goes back to the thread starter, which isn't who posted what the poster replied to.
The system works assuming you hit the reply to post and not reply to OP. PEBKAC happens here as well as on NNTP.
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said by NormanS:

That replies to the OP, yes?
no, it tells you the post you are reading is a reply to the post that is linked.
Interesting. However, the "reply to" in the post I replied to goes back to the thread starter, which isn't who posted what the poster replied to.
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said by AVD:

click the reply to link at the top of the post.
That replies to the OP, yes?
no, it tells you the post you are reading is a reply to the post that is linked.
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This evening I visited a nearby Pizza Hut restaurant...
This was your mistake. Don't do it again.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-civil-rights-public-accomodation-discrimination-23280692 Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:04:58 EDT Re: [civil rights] public accomodation discrimination http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-civil-rights-public-accomodation-discrimination-23278163 said by Hayward See ProfileYou want to make this sale or not idiots????
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It's their choice. You don't have to do business with them, and they can require terms to do business with them.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-civil-rights-public-accomodation-discrimination-23278163 Mon, 02 Nov 2009 10:51:21 EDT Re: [civil rights] public accomodation discrimination http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-civil-rights-public-accomodation-discrimination-23269651 said by psafux:

I don't see a discriminatory issue here at all, to be honest. There is a nationally-known computer store that requires phone numbers in order to make a sale. RadioShack used to as well around here.
Well that is BS too... you just caved..... I am paying CASH there is NO REASON you need to trace me (not that a CC wouldn't be a paper trail) Not buying a Realistic bomb fuse

You want to make this sale or not idiots????
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Before being mayor he ran a resturant. The resturant had 2 doors. The front door said whites only, Black enter around back.
I think [don't know for sure] he kept the resturant open while serving as Mayor.
He is known for appointing the first Black people to the atlanta mayors office.
His reasoning was this, and I agree with it.
A business is a private company. The owner can decide who he is or isn't going to serve and how they will be served. Government is for the people, all people. Hence its unfair not to have all people representend.

Anyhow the point I trying to get to, private business can decide who and who they are not going to serve.
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click the reply to link at the top of the post.
That replies to the OP, yes? The issue is figuring out who a subsequent poster replied to when he hasn't attributed, or quoted the poster he is replying to. Then you are at the mercy of how the pages are displayed, threaded, when using the "Full" view. If the thread spans multiple pages, as this one does, you lose track of the threading. Compare with the threaded views in a proper NNTP client.
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said by NormanS:

said by AVD:

Make sure you hit the reply to post and not to thread.
But, in this case, the thread spanned multiple pages. I know I replied to a comment made by tao See Profile. What I could not see was that tao See Profile was responding to somebody other than the OP.
And even when the pages are in full view it's cumbersome and hard to read making it easy to miss what you're looking for.
click the reply to link at the top of the post.
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said by AVD:

Make sure you hit the reply to post and not to thread.
But, in this case, the thread spanned multiple pages. I know I replied to a comment made by tao See Profile. What I could not see was that tao See Profile was responding to somebody other than the OP.
And even when the pages are in full view it's cumbersome and hard to read making it easy to miss what you're looking for.
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Make sure you hit the reply to post and not to thread.
But, in this case, the thread spanned multiple pages. I know I replied to a comment made by tao See Profile. What I could not see was that tao See Profile was responding to somebody other than the OP.
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said by javaMan:

It was a reference to a link Doctor Olds See Profile provided earlier.
What I hate about web forums, in contrast with NNTP, threading isn't always obvious, and, without an attribution, how does one know to whom a reply was offered?
I agree. but they sure are popular these days. I do wish they could be designed more like NNTP though.
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It was a reference to a link Doctor Olds See Profile provided earlier.
What I hate about web forums, in contrast with NNTP, threading isn't always obvious, and, without an attribution, how does one know to whom a reply was offered?
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I'm not 100% sure, but I think it's not just in crosswalks.....
It is. Otherwise, you'd have people leaping into your car as you travel down the street and wrack up the lawsuits.

As a driver, you are to watch out for pedestrians and yield accordingly. However, if a pedestrian (outside a crosswalk) enters the road in a manner which causes an accident, well...it's their fault. The only exception to this are those sporting the sight-impaired canes, and they have right-of-way regardless of their position.

But yeah, hitting a pedestrian, for any reason, in a crosswalk is 100% the driver's at-fault.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-civil-rights-public-accomodation-discrimination-23254674 Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:46:52 EDT Re: [civil rights] public accomodation discrimination http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-civil-rights-public-accomodation-discrimination-23254543 said by Thaler:

said by Maccawolf:

Regardless of the white cane or not. Pedestrians have the right of way.....
In crosswalks.
I'm not 100% sure, but I think it's not just in crosswalks.....
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said by Thaler:

said by Time:

What is such a big deal about giving out your number to a Pizza Hut?
If a stranger stopped you on the street and asked you for your phone number, would you give it over? The better question is, what the hell does a pizzeria need a phone number for on a cash sale?
This is a Pizza Hut, please remove your tin foil hat. I'm sure the person working behind the counter could care less about your phone number, he or she is just following what they are told to do.
I don't think anyone blames the employee. It is the policy and its rigid enforcement that's being questioned.
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said by tao:

OTOH, that this manager dude was all quick to offer to call the police makes me wonder how long before that Pizza Hut will need a new manager. It is a people business and that is not nearly friendly enough for the long term.
Where, in the OP, was the matter of calling the police mentioned? I had to scan back, and re-read twice. I finally hit the browser "search" button. Even Opera couldn't find "police" anywhere on the first page.
It was a reference to a link Doctor Olds See Profile provided earlier.

»www.ripoffreport.com/Fast-Food-R···37d5.htm
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said by fatness:

That works for one customer. Then another customer has to do it. Then another, etc. It makes more sense to change a dumb policy.
yea but it will make them change it a lot quicker if everyone is giving them fake numbers.
I disagree. It will change more quickly when everyone refuses to give their number. Giving a false number only enables and perpetuates the system. Losing sales is the quickest way for a vendor to discover that to continue to do business requires changing policy and/or software.
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Regardless of the white cane or not. Pedestrians have the right of way.You should come to arizona and inform the drivers here of that fact.
when walking you take your life in your hands here[even in crosswalks!], you delay someone in a car a microsecond you get the fuck off honk or the middle finger.
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Regardless of the white cane or not. Pedestrians have the right of way.....
In crosswalks. And I doubt the drive-thru at McD's counts as a pedestrian walkway (or should be discouraged from being such).

Granted, you're going slow enough anyways through a drive-thru, the likelyhood of an "unavoidable pedestrian" is pretty low.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-civil-rights-public-accomodation-discrimination-23252913 Wed, 28 Oct 2009 06:41:07 EDT Re: [civil rights] public accomodation discrimination http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-civil-rights-public-accomodation-discrimination-23252902 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-civil-rights-public-accomodation-discrimination-23252902 Wed, 28 Oct 2009 06:35:12 EDT Re: [civil rights] public accomodation discrimination http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-civil-rights-public-accomodation-discrimination-23248543 said by thedragonmas:

i become rather angry and proceed to walk away in a huff and am THEN hit by a car.... becomes a moot point now dont it?
To pull a sucessful suit against them, you'd have to show that the store encourages drive-thru usage as such, and then neglected to consider safety. If they have those "No Walk-Thrus" prominantely displayed, then it was up to you to do the stupid deed.

Just because you can hurt yourself on someone's property, doesn't mean that they're required to bubble-wrap everything. You could run behind the counters of fast food grills and give yourself nasty burns, but any court would laugh your claim right out the door.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-civil-rights-public-accomodation-discrimination-23248543 Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:36:41 EDT Re: [civil rights] public accomodation discrimination http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-civil-rights-public-accomodation-discrimination-23247349
So sorry you've been hit!
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and your right. ive almost been hit numorus times in parking lots by idiots that dont seem to understand what that white cane means but then i dont have a car,,, so i shouldnt be in a parking lot huh?

coulda swore there was this whole "equal access" thing, but hey, i must be wrong...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-civil-rights-public-accomodation-discrimination-23247153 Tue, 27 Oct 2009 06:45:04 EDT Re: [civil rights] public accomodation discrimination http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-civil-rights-public-accomodation-discrimination-23239706 --
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I've done fast food overnight before when it was in the test phases years ago, and you'd be surprised at the amount of people who would drive up and come in during normal "drive-thru only hours". As for the argument that it requires less staff to have a dining room open, well, that's simply not true. Many nights there were just as many people working the day shift as the over night shift, and on slow days it only took 2-3 people overnight. Liability issues required that at least 2 personnel were on staff at any given time, not including the manager, though sometimes they would sit in the office and sleep... Ahem... I mean, do paperwork.

The only thing that makes a drive through in this area designed for vehicular traffic is the weight sensor, and the fact that cars drive on it otherwise there is no reason.

I still fail to see why walking through a drive through makes a private property owner less liable than walking through a 2 acre parking lot full of idiot drivers. There are far more danger zones, marked or not, in said parking lot than in a not-nearly-as-busy driver through.
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said by SilenceGold:

You will have a civil case only if you are deaf like I am.

Every time I get asked for a phone number, I tell them I am deaf. If they ask for the number again, I ask for the manager. I tell the manager that his/her employee discriminated me by "requiring" a phone number from a disabled individual that may be incapable of using a regular phone.

Then I get away with it.

Pizza Hut, radioshack, couple of auto repair shops, and so on..

There you go!
I like it!
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said by fatness:

[That's just put out to discourage the practice.
I think that's actually put out in place to protect the upper corporate butts in case someone does bring suit to McDonalds. When a franchise drops the ball and gets a lawsuit from someone mowed over in a drive-thru, the corporate management can bring this out to keep lawsuits from going any further.
I hadn't thought of that part of it. You're probably right.
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I wonder how many that balk at giving out personal, private information like one's telephone number are ready to buy the pizza with their credit/debit cards... LOL! :)
I think the point is... DONT give it all at the same time.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-civil-rights-public-accomodation-discrimination-23227182 Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:28:46 EDT Re: [civil rights] public accomodation discrimination http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-civil-rights-public-accomodation-discrimination-23226845 --
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Then Why stay open all night, knowing half of your potential overnight customers are going to be pedestrians? But then again we are yet again pointed at stupid business 101 practices.
If half of the custom was pedestrian, then it would likely be worthwhile to keep the dining room open.

Running the drive through only requires less staff than keeping the dining room open.
Oh, and before I forget, these 20 acre Wal-Mart parking lots are any less dangerous?
Actually, yes. You don't have to walk through grease spots. And the local Safeway has designated pedestrian walkways (marked "crosswalks"). So it is less like walking down the middle of the road (which I have actually seen done by some folks in this neighborhood).
Can't they just put a sign in the drive through that you pedest at your own risk? That makes them non-liable doesn't it?
I don't know where you got your law degree, but a sign disclaiming liability does not actually remove liability. You must actually actively protect against potential injury, such as provide designated pedestrian pathways (unless you can apply the principles of your state vehicle code, in describing where a pedestrian should walk in the absence of a designated pedestrian path).

Considering that a drive-up window is designed specifically for vehicles, without any consideration for pedestrians, you can't limit your liability unless you redesign the access with pedestrian safety in mind.
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Not in this state. If you allow a practice, a sign saying otherwise won't protect the owner from lawsuits.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-civil-rights-public-accomodation-discrimination-23225494 Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:39:11 EDT Re: [civil rights] public accomodation discrimination http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-civil-rights-public-accomodation-discrimination-23225450 said by fatness:

[That's just put out to discourage the practice.
I think that's actually put out in place to protect the upper corporate butts in case someone does bring suit to McDonalds. When a franchise drops the ball and gets a lawsuit from someone mowed over in a drive-thru, the corporate management can bring this out to keep lawsuits from going any further.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-civil-rights-public-accomodation-discrimination-23225450 Thu, 22 Oct 2009 14:27:32 EDT Re: [civil rights] public accomodation discrimination http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-civil-rights-public-accomodation-discrimination-23225208 said by drslash:

Can I get fries with that Big Mac? :)
Sure. Walk up to the drive-through window and I'll have one for you. Don't worry about the stated policy of not allowing walkups at the window. That's just put out to discourage the practice. Individual franchises treat walkups however they like, everyone knows that. :)

Enjoy the big mac.
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Oh, and before I forget, these 20 acre Wal-Mart parking lots are any less dangerous? Can't they just put a sign in the drive through that you pedest at your own risk? That makes them non-liable doesn't it?
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The simple thing to do would have to been to give a fake legitimate sounding phone number. Instead of turning a mole hill into a mountain.
I fault the clerk here, she should have a "stock" fake number of her own to plug into the computer for refusals.
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Our company uses a similar system to PH. It does not require a phone number to complete a carry-out order.

We do ask for a phone number to keep better track of customers (new vs existing) and their history even for walk-ins. It also helps out if I customer calls back later with a problem with their order.

I can not speak for PH, but we do not use customer's phone number for marketing reasons.

If a customer refuses to give a phone number, we simply complete the order without a phone number, no questions asked.

It is perfectly legal for a company to require a phone number to complete a sale, while it might not be the wisest idea, as long as it is required for every customer. Discrimination happens when it is based off race, gender, national origin, religion, or handicap. At no point did the PH employee imply any of those reasons for refusing service.

The simple thing to do would have to been to give a fake legitimate sounding phone number. Instead of turning a mole hill into a mountain.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-civil-rights-public-accomodation-discrimination-23222784 Thu, 22 Oct 2009 08:24:14 EDT Re: [civil rights] public accomodation discrimination http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-civil-rights-public-accomodation-discrimination-23217891 said by horsemouth:

said by AVD:

said by horsemouth:

I hope this was not mentioned above. [did not read all the posts]
I'm glad you graced us with your genius! We would never have figured out your solution left to our own devices.
I thought I brought up a good point.
Does it break their card holder agreement if they demand my phone#?
Are you intentionally trying to be funny?

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said by AVD:

Can they ask for a phone number if you pay by credit card?

They are using the number to track your purchases. Just make one up that isn't as obvious. Or get a google voice or other free number.

And this is not a civil rights issue, 'phoneless' is not a protected class.

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You will have a civil case only if you are deaf like I am.

Every time I get asked for a phone number, I tell them I am deaf. If they ask for the number again, I ask for the manager. I tell the manager that his/her employee discriminated me by "requiring" a phone number from a disabled individual that may be incapable of using a regular phone.

Then I get away with it.

Pizza Hut, radioshack, couple of auto repair shops, and so on..

For the record, I do have my own phone number (for videophone).
There you go!
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Every time I get asked for a phone number, I tell them I am deaf. If they ask for the number again, I ask for the manager. I tell the manager that his/her employee discriminated me by "requiring" a phone number from a disabled individual that may be incapable of using a regular phone.

Then I get away with it.

Pizza Hut, radioshack, couple of auto repair shops, and so on..

For the record, I do have my own phone number (for videophone).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-civil-rights-public-accomodation-discrimination-23217841 Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:13:27 EDT Re: [civil rights] public accomodation discrimination http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-civil-rights-public-accomodation-discrimination-23217488
quote:
Hello XXXXXX:

Thank you for taking the time to contact McDonald's.

We apologize for your disappointment on a recent visit to McDonald's. You may be interested to know that McDonald's values the safety of our customers. As such, for safety reasons, McDonald's policy states that customers who walk up or arrive on bicycles to the Drive-thru windows should not be served at the windows. This policy also applies to those customers who operate motorized wheelchairs or non-licensed motorized vehicles. During hours when the front counter is open, we would welcome the customer inside to have his or her order taken at the front counter.

We hope this information has been helpful. Again, thank you for contacting McDonald's. We hope to have the opportunity of serving you again soon under the Golden Arches.

Sarah
McDonald's Customer Response Center

Can I get fries with that Big Mac? :)
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said by horsemouth:

I hope this was not mentioned above. [did not read all the posts]
I'm glad you graced us with your genius! We would never have figured out your solution left to our own devices.
I thought I brought up a good point.
Does it break their card holder agreement if they demand my phone#?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-civil-rights-public-accomodation-discrimination-23217180 Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:26:30 EDT Re: [civil rights] public accomodation discrimination http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-civil-rights-public-accomodation-discrimination-23217138 said by horsemouth:

I hope this was not mentioned above. [did not read all the posts]
I'm glad you graced us with your genius! We would never have figured out your solution left to our own devices.
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