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 GTJiga06 GTPremium
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Re: CoD: MW2 To Not Support Dedicated Servers Or Mods Codemasters did the same thing with Operation Flashpoint Dragon Rising. No dedicated server support or mod tools. The community is in an uproar about it.
Don't know what the deal is with gaming companies these days giving PC gamers the shaft.
I have to ask... is COD:MW2 going to be on the console as well? If so, that makes a lot of sense why ded. server/mod tools are not being released. OFPDR has a console version as well, which is damn identical to the PC version. I believe they made the console version then just copied that to PC... not a port mind you, but developed it for the PC but just like the console version, along side it.
*EDIT* Also the OFP Mission Editor is really dumbed down, seems that just threw it together last minute sytle. | |
| said by GTJiga:I have to ask... is COD:MW2 going to be on the console as well? If so, that makes a lot of sense why ded. server/mod tools are not being released. OFPDR has a console version as well, which is damn identical to the PC version. I believe they made the console version then just copied that to PC... not a port mind you, but developed it for the PC but just like the console version, along side it. *EDIT* Also the OFP Mission Editor is really dumbed down, seems that just threw it together last minute sytle. Call of Duty 2, Call of Duty Modern Warfare, and Call of Duty World at War all had console versions as well, but every single one of those games provided dedicated servers and mod tools. So it has nothing to do with it being on consoles, its just another blow to PC gamers, matchmaking was not meant for PC gaming.
Plus, OFDR is dying down online already, easily contributed to the lack of dedicated servers. | |
GTJiga06 GTPremium
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1 edit | said by Reck Havoc:said by GTJiga:I have to ask... is COD:MW2 going to be on the console as well? If so, that makes a lot of sense why ded. server/mod tools are not being released. OFPDR has a console version as well, which is damn identical to the PC version. I believe they made the console version then just copied that to PC... not a port mind you, but developed it for the PC but just like the console version, along side it. *EDIT* Also the OFP Mission Editor is really dumbed down, seems that just threw it together last minute sytle. Call of Duty 2, Call of Duty Modern Warfare, and Call of Duty World at War all had console versions as well, but every single one of those games provided dedicated servers and mod tools. So it has nothing to do with it being on consoles, its just another blow to PC gamers, matchmaking was not meant for PC gaming. Plus, OFDR is dying down online already, easily contributed to the lack of dedicated servers. Actually, it does have everything to do consoles. They are the money makers for the gaming industry. What IW has done is made the console version then make the PC version pretty much a copy but not a direct port. It is looking like they took the same method as Codemasters did with OFPDR.
Just wait till the game comes out and see how the menus are setup and the MP browser. It will look exactly like the console version. I'd put money on that wager. The MP experience is going to be trash and laggy as hell with ordinary people hosting the session on their PC's with limited upload bandwidth.
PC gaming sales have gone down I'm guessing, so they are pulling this BS. Well, they'll go down even more now.
Also, don't expect much mod support if they pull the same crap OFPDR did. They way they have their files packed you cannot extract them properly to modify them. There is very limited modding going on with OFPDR, very basic stuff since that is all we can do. | | |
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| said by GTJiga:said by Reck Havoc:said by GTJiga:I have to ask... is COD:MW2 going to be on the console as well? If so, that makes a lot of sense why ded. server/mod tools are not being released. OFPDR has a console version as well, which is damn identical to the PC version. I believe they made the console version then just copied that to PC... not a port mind you, but developed it for the PC but just like the console version, along side it. *EDIT* Also the OFP Mission Editor is really dumbed down, seems that just threw it together last minute sytle. Call of Duty 2, Call of Duty Modern Warfare, and Call of Duty World at War all had console versions as well, but every single one of those games provided dedicated servers and mod tools. So it has nothing to do with it being on consoles, its just another blow to PC gamers, matchmaking was not meant for PC gaming. Plus, OFDR is dying down online already, easily contributed to the lack of dedicated servers. Actually, it does have everything to do consoles. They are the money makers for the gaming industry. What IW has done is made the console version then make the PC version pretty much a copy but not a direct port. It is looking like they took the same method as Codemasters did with OFPDR. Just wait till the game comes out and see how the menus are setup and the MP browser. It will look exactly like the console version. I'd put money on that wager. The MP experience is going to be trash and laggy as hell with ordinary people hosting the session on their PC's with limited upload bandwidth. PC gaming sales have gone down I'm guessing, so they are pulling this BS. Well, they'll go down even more now. Also, don't expect much mod support if they pull the same crap OFPDR did. They way they have their files packed you cannot extract them properly to modify them. There is very limited modding going on with OFPDR, very basic stuff since that is all we can do. PC game sales are not down according to most figures that include MMOs and digital distribution services
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GTJiga06 GTPremium
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kudos:1 | I used the wrong wording there, I should have said, "PC gaming sales are not as high as console sales."
When a game is released for all platforms (PC and console) it seems the console will get higher sales of said game.
I don't have any proof to back it up, just seems it is going this way from. This is about the only thing I found in my limited time of searching.
* Game console software sales totaled $8.9 billion with 189.0 million units sold;
* Computer games sales were $701.4 million with 29.1 million units sold
»www.theesa.com/facts/salesandgenre.asp
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| said by GTJiga:I used the wrong wording there, I should have said, "PC gaming sales are not as high as console sales." When a game is released for all platforms (PC and console) it seems the console will get higher sales of said game. I don't have any proof to back it up, just seems it is going this way from. This is about the only thing I found in my limited time of searching. * Game console software sales totaled $8.9 billion with 189.0 million units sold;
* Computer games sales were $701.4 million with 29.1 million units sold
»www.theesa.com/facts/salesandgenre.asp
i agree with the premise of consoles selling more games but truly no one has accurate PC sales figures.
NPD, which is quoted in the article you linked, only looks at brick and mortar sales. it does not even account for online-only stores like amazon, newegg, or gogamer, let alone Steam, D2D, etc. valve has never released any steam sales or money figures for anything ever, besides listed the most popular games purchased and how L4D2 shattered their previous pre-order record for an in-house game.
some people estimate steam sales almost rivaling the NPD numbers by itself.
speaking as someone in many pc online gaming communities, we hardly ever buy retail games. when we do, it's usually through gogamer.com, amazon, etc. we're not against buying from stores, but sales tax sucks and online is usually cheaper even after shipping.
steam is my ideal platform, though.
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