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moonpuppy

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The ONLY thing good I can see out of this....

....is more apps for Android devices. With Verizon pushing this, the apps store might get quite a few more entries.

The bad things:

- Verizon wanting to exert a lot of control.

- Verizon only apps.

- Lockdown of a lot of normal features.

Only time will tell how Verizon reacts.

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Re: The ONLY thing good I can see out of this....

said by moonpuppy:

....is more apps for Android devices. With Verizon pushing this, the apps store might get quite a few more entries.

The bad things:

- Verizon wanting to exert a lot of control.

- Verizon only apps.

- Lockdown of a lot of normal features.

Only time will tell how Verizon reacts.
Non-techies won't notice Verizon's control. Techies can root the phone.
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vv1r3d

@centurytel.net

Re: The ONLY thing good I can see out of this....

VZW has made a habit of not locking their phones down like they had in the past, all the new windows phones and blackberry's are not locked down when it comes to GPS (everyone's most famouse gripe with them) and allows applications to be installed from almost anywhere... I am a tech and I don't see where VZW controls every movement of my phone any longer.....

If we are talking about control look to Apple and at&t, can't run multiple programs at once... and call it a "smartphone"? It actually goes against the original definition of smartphone.

nixen
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Re: The ONLY thing good I can see out of this....

said by vv1r3d :

VZW has made a habit of not locking their phones down like they had in the past, all the new windows phones and blackberry's are not locked down when it comes to GPS (everyone's most famouse gripe with them) and allows applications to be installed from almost anywhere... I am a tech and I don't see where VZW controls every movement of my phone any longer.....
They still lock GPS out from anything but their product. Latitudes kinda sucks for accuracy because of it ("your position within 2000m" is kinda sub-par). About the only time Latitudes is accurate is when you're moving for multiple samples on known thoroughfares. Otherwise... Even with two phones sitting on the same desktop, they can show up in Latitudes as being a mile+ apart on the Latitude map.
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cghh

join:2001-01-15
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Re: The ONLY thing good I can see out of this....

said by nixen:

They still lock GPS out from anything but their product. Latitudes kinda sucks for accuracy because of it ("your position within 2000m" is kinda sub-par).
As pointed out by an earlier poster, GPS is not locked down in any way by VZW on the newer Blackberries such as the Storm. Third party location-knowledgeable applications such as Google Maps, Poynt, and Where use the standalone GPS functionality just fine, with the resolution you would expect from GPS satellite location fixes (a couple of yards).

nixen
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Re: The ONLY thing good I can see out of this....

said by cghh:

said by nixen:

They still lock GPS out from anything but their product. Latitudes kinda sucks for accuracy because of it ("your position within 2000m" is kinda sub-par).
As pointed out by an earlier poster, GPS is not locked down in any way by VZW on the newer Blackberries such as the Storm. Third party location-knowledgeable applications such as Google Maps, Poynt, and Where use the standalone GPS functionality just fine, with the resolution you would expect from GPS satellite location fixes (a couple of yards).
Dunno. However, as I look at my Storm, Google Maps says "your location within 1900 meters". As it is, the only time it's accurate to under 20 meters is if I'm in a fast-moving vehicle and traveling a primary route. The slower I go, the less accurate the positioning is. Standing still is completely awful for accuracy. Checking the BlackBerry forums, this doesn't seem to be unusual for Google Maps on Verizon BlackBerrys.
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cmenson

@comcast.net
They are under contract in the Open Handset Alliance to not screw with the phone.

imrf
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join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI
said by moonpuppy:

....is more apps for Android devices. With Verizon pushing this, the apps store might get quite a few more entries.

The bad things:

- Verizon wanting to exert a lot of control.

- Verizon only apps.

- Lockdown of a lot of normal features.

Only time will tell how Verizon reacts.
Except Verizon doesn't do any of that on any of their smartphones. All the Black Berry's and WinMo phones are left untouched. The Droid will be the same.

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