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| | They try Everyone is trying to come out with the phone to beat the iPhone. But it hasn't happened yet. This past weekend, I was showing a couple of non tech people my iPhone. They were amazed at the ease of use over their blackberries. That's where the iPhone really shines. The software literally makes it easy to use every feature on the iPhone. Yeah, somethings like true multitasking can't be done, but the average person doesn't know or care about that and that's why AT&T and Apple have solidified the smartphone market with the iPhone. It will be very hard to beat the iPhone. | |
|  | | Re: They try said by obeythelaw:Yeah, somethings like true multitasking can't be done, but the average person doesn't know or care about that and that's why AT&T and Apple have solidified the smartphone market with the iPhone. It will be very hard to beat the iPhone. I agree with everything you said; the ease of use and elegant design are very compelling. I don't particularly like Apple but I'd certainly be willing to turn a blind eye to the locked down nature of the iPhone if it weren't an AT&T exclusive. That awful company will never get a cent of my money for wireless or ANY other service. I'll go with carrier pigeon if AT&T ever becomes my only option for communication / entertainment.
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| |  NightfallMy Goal Is To Deny YoursPremium,MVM
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| Re: They try said by Telco_Tech:said by obeythelaw:Yeah, somethings like true multitasking can't be done, but the average person doesn't know or care about that and that's why AT&T and Apple have solidified the smartphone market with the iPhone. It will be very hard to beat the iPhone. I agree with everything you said; the ease of use and elegant design are very compelling. I don't particularly like Apple but I'd certainly be willing to turn a blind eye to the locked down nature of the iPhone if it weren't an AT&T exclusive. That awful company will never get a cent of my money for wireless or ANY other service. I'll go with carrier pigeon if AT&T ever becomes my only option for communication / entertainment. - Tate I prefer to let the level of service in my area dictate if I want to buy the service or not. Thats just me though. 
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kudos:2 | said by Telco_Tech:said by obeythelaw:Yeah, somethings like true multitasking can't be done, but the average person doesn't know or care about that and that's why AT&T and Apple have solidified the smartphone market with the iPhone. It will be very hard to beat the iPhone. I agree with everything you said; the ease of use and elegant design are very compelling. I don't particularly like Apple but I'd certainly be willing to turn a blind eye to the locked down nature of the iPhone if it weren't an AT&T exclusive. That awful company will never get a cent of my money for wireless or ANY other service. I'll go with carrier pigeon if AT&T ever becomes my only option for communication / entertainment. - Tate Meh. I don't like AT&T, but the service with the iPhone has been stellar. The very few times I had to call AT&T, they were prompt and professional. I don't have billing issues. I pay every month, they give me a service every month. Fast 3G network, great voice quality.
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| True there but the fact that apple milks every penny from a customer is lame, like the FEW features added to the 3GS compared to the 3G and I bet ya the next one they release will come with flash on the camera and will charge crap load of money again. | |
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Brooklyn, NY | Re: They try said by glinc:True there but the fact that apple milks every penny from a customer is lame, like the FEW features added to the 3GS compared to the 3G and I bet ya the next one they release will come with flash on the camera and will charge crap load of money again. So true, this is why I still have the 3g iPhone and won't upgrade for a long time. | |
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Colorado Springs, CO | Re: They try said by BetaTron:said by glinc:True there but the fact that apple milks every penny from a customer is lame, like the FEW features added to the 3GS compared to the 3G and I bet ya the next one they release will come with flash on the camera and will charge crap load of money again. So true, this is why I still have the 3g iPhone and won't upgrade for a long time. Exact reason while I'm dumping the iPhone as soon as there's a viable alternative and I dont have to pay an ETF. | |
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| said by glinc:True there but the fact that apple milks every penny from a customer is lame, like the FEW features added to the 3GS compared to the 3G and I bet ya the next one they release will come with flash on the camera and will charge crap load of money again. Few features yes but huge upgrade in RAM and speed of the iphone is what made the upgrade a no brainer for me from my 3G to the 3GS. Use them side by side and the 3G is sluggish.
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kudos:5 | said by obeythelaw:Everyone is trying to come out with the phone to beat the iPhone. But it hasn't happened yet. I know this "nobody beats the iPhone" question has all the meaning of a dick-size war, but of course the iPhone has been beaten. It was self-defeated.
The iPhone sure ignited the imagination, but on full review it did little that other phones didn't already do. Further, the iPhone had quirks and self-imposed limits that other phones didn't have.
The iPhone is a loser as it was so bad that it drove key members of its audience away to other devices. Read that carefully -- they weren't lured away by something more sexy, it's just that the iPhone + App Store + AT&T = something so bad that geeks who badly wanted to love it couldn't take the heartbreak any longer.
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| Re: They try said by funchords:said by obeythelaw:Everyone is trying to come out with the phone to beat the iPhone. But it hasn't happened yet. I know this "nobody beats the iPhone" question has all the meaning of a dick-size war, but of course the iPhone has been beaten. It was self-defeated. The iPhone sure ignited the imagination, but on full review it did little that other phones didn't already do. Further, the iPhone had quirks and self-imposed limits that other phones didn't have. The iPhone is a loser as it was so bad that it drove key members of its audience away to other devices. Read that carefully -- they weren't lured away by something more sexy, it's just that the iPhone + App Store + AT&T = something so bad that geeks who badly wanted to love it couldn't take the heartbreak any longer. I read it carefully and I guess I just don't understand your point. The Iphone actually brought in and keeps bringing in subscribers to the AT&T family. Yes, some members of the family are not happy with the service. Yes, some members are not happy with the app store. Yet, these people are not leaving the fold. So it must not be too bad if they are just going to stick with what they have now.
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| | |  nixenRockin' the BoxenPremium
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Alexandria, VA | Re: They try said by Nightfall:I read it carefully and I guess I just don't understand your point. The Iphone actually brought in and keeps bringing in subscribers to the AT&T family. Yes, some members of the family are not happy with the service. Yes, some members are not happy with the app store. Yet, these people are not leaving the fold. So it must not be too bad if they are just going to stick with what they have now. That's hard to say. There are a lot of people - not just/specifically iPhone users - that hate their cell provider but stay with them nonetheless. It's part of the whole 2yr lock-in. But even after that lock-in ends, a lot of people stay just because of inertia and the fact that *all* of the carriers suck in one way or another. Inertia ruled things long before the iPhone and will continue to do so long after. I'd say your assertion that iPhone is what is keeping people is inaccurate, at best.
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| Re: They try said by nixen:said by Nightfall:I read it carefully and I guess I just don't understand your point. The Iphone actually brought in and keeps bringing in subscribers to the AT&T family. Yes, some members of the family are not happy with the service. Yes, some members are not happy with the app store. Yet, these people are not leaving the fold. So it must not be too bad if they are just going to stick with what they have now. That's hard to say. There are a lot of people - not just/specifically iPhone users - that hate their cell provider but stay with them nonetheless. It's part of the whole 2yr lock-in. But even after that lock-in ends, a lot of people stay just because of inertia and the fact that *all* of the carriers suck in one way or another. Inertia ruled things long before the iPhone and will continue to do so long after. I'd say your assertion that iPhone is what is keeping people is inaccurate, at best. I suppose we could debate the reasons. The data showing a growing subscriber base and even more importantly, an Iphone subscriber base, cannot be denied. If AT&T's network was that bad, I doubt people would be paying for this product. At least I wouldn't.
Still, the Iphone is in fact bringing people into the AT&T world. Thats for damn sure. Keeping them in the AT&T world could be a variety of factors, but the Iphone is a major reason.
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| | | said by funchords:said by obeythelaw:Everyone is trying to come out with the phone to beat the iPhone. But it hasn't happened yet. I know this "nobody beats the iPhone" question has all the meaning of a dick-size war, but of course the iPhone has been beaten. It was self-defeated. The iPhone sure ignited the imagination, but on full review it did little that other phones didn't already do. Further, the iPhone had quirks and self-imposed limits that other phones didn't have. The iPhone is a loser as it was so bad that it drove key members of its audience away to other devices. Read that carefully -- they weren't lured away by something more sexy, it's just that the iPhone + App Store + AT&T = something so bad that geeks who badly wanted to love it couldn't take the heartbreak any longer. LOL, geeks have never been "key members of its audience". Just like with the iPod before it, the iPhone is designed for non-geeks who want a flashy new toy and won't notice how crippled it is compared to other smart phones. Many of the iPhone users I have seen would never have a smart phone in the first place.
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| | | funchordsHelloPremium,MVM
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kudos:5 | Re: They try said by cmaenginsb:the iPhone is designed for non-geeks who want a flashy new toy and won't notice how crippled it is compared to other smart phones. You might have me there. 
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| said by cmaenginsb:said by funchords:said by obeythelaw:Everyone is trying to come out with the phone to beat the iPhone. But it hasn't happened yet. I know this "nobody beats the iPhone" question has all the meaning of a dick-size war, but of course the iPhone has been beaten. It was self-defeated. The iPhone sure ignited the imagination, but on full review it did little that other phones didn't already do. Further, the iPhone had quirks and self-imposed limits that other phones didn't have. The iPhone is a loser as it was so bad that it drove key members of its audience away to other devices. Read that carefully -- they weren't lured away by something more sexy, it's just that the iPhone + App Store + AT&T = something so bad that geeks who badly wanted to love it couldn't take the heartbreak any longer. LOL, geeks have never been "key members of its audience". Just like with the iPod before it, the iPhone is designed for non-geeks who want a flashy new toy and won't notice how crippled it is compared to other smart phones. Many of the iPhone users I have seen would never have a smart phone in the first place. Or you could say that as geeks we get our hands on the iPhone and jailbreak it to allow it to do everything that it can do. An unlocked 3GS, even the 3G, shows just how much this thing is capable of.
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Williamsport, PA | said by funchords:I know this "nobody beats the iPhone" question has all the meaning of a dick-size war, but of course the iPhone has been beaten. It was self-defeated. The iPhone sure ignited the imagination, but on full review it did little that other phones didn't already do. Further, the iPhone had quirks and self-imposed limits that other phones didn't have. The iPhone is a loser as it was so bad that it drove key members of its audience away to other devices. Read that carefully -- they weren't lured away by something more sexy, it's just that the iPhone + App Store + AT&T = something so bad that geeks who badly wanted to love it couldn't take the heartbreak any longer. You sound like you want an iPhone.
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kudos:5 | Re: They try said by RRedline:You sound like you want an iPhone. I did, until they locked in with AT&T. But that was before we knew about the App Store's silliness.
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