 RobIn Deo speramus, God Bless the USAPremium
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Re: The drop dead Apple "Verizon Droid" said by Nightfall:said by fAcEtIOUs:said by crazyk4952:If they really want to have something that competes with the iPhone, they had better make their Android phones a lot less clunky than the G1 and G2. And this is supposed to be just that. Faster, slimmer, bigger screen(3.7 in.), better camera, newer Android OS version, etc than any Android phone yet released. Pics here, looks good: » www.boygeniusreport.com/gallery/···a-droid/ I want to see some reviews of the product before I make up my mind. There are some fanboys out there saying this phone is equal to the second coming of Christ. Hell, even I waited on the fence for the Iphone 3g to come out before I bought it. If this new phone is in fact that awesome, word will spread quickly. Otherwise, it will just die on the vine like so many other products that have been touted as the next "iphone killer". IMO, there's no way this phone can beat out iPhone. It can be "the killer" phone, but the iPhone has something that the droid doesn't - it has the Apple name behind it.
Like the Pre (which is a great phone, btw), the Droid will just be another "smartphone".
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 NightfallMy Goal Is To Deny YoursPremium,MVM
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said by Rob:IMO, there's no way this phone can beat out iPhone. It can be "the killer" phone, but the iPhone has something that the droid doesn't - it has the Apple name behind it. Like the Pre (which is a great phone, btw), the Droid will just be another "smartphone". Well then I want to see some reviews on the smartphone. I am not married to the Iphone at all due to the apple name. I enjoy the phone because it just works for me.
Will this phone be the next big thing? I have no idea. I am at least willing to read the reviews though. One thing I will not do is start touting the Droid to be the Iphone killer like many fanboys are doing right now.
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said by Rob:but the iPhone has something that the droid doesn't - it has the Apple name behind it. To me, the Apple brand has continued to mean "cool but expensive and incompatible." Buying a phone because it's Apple-branded is like buying a backpack for the Nike "swoosh." Rather foolish, unless you're really into "swooshes."
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 nixenRockin' the BoxenPremium
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said by Rob:IMO, there's no way this phone can beat out iPhone. It can be "the killer" phone, but the iPhone has something that the droid doesn't - it has the Apple name behind it. Except that, at least in the U.S., the iPhone also has the "AT&T" name on it (and their associated garbage data networks). Seriously, it's the utter craptacularness of AT&T that keeps me from hopping on the iPhone train (well, other things, too, but that's the primary one).
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RobIn Deo speramus, God Bless the USAPremium
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kudos:2 | said by nixen:said by Rob:IMO, there's no way this phone can beat out iPhone. It can be "the killer" phone, but the iPhone has something that the droid doesn't - it has the Apple name behind it. Except that, at least in the U.S., the iPhone also has the "AT&T" name on it (and their associated garbage data networks). Seriously, it's the utter craptacularness of AT&T that keeps me from hopping on the iPhone train (well, other things, too, but that's the primary one). Which brings up another good point. Apple can open up the iPhone to T-Mobile and that would increase the number of iPhone numbers fairly quickly.
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said by Rob:said by nixen:said by Rob:IMO, there's no way this phone can beat out iPhone. It can be "the killer" phone, but the iPhone has something that the droid doesn't - it has the Apple name behind it. Except that, at least in the U.S., the iPhone also has the "AT&T" name on it (and their associated garbage data networks). Seriously, it's the utter craptacularness of AT&T that keeps me from hopping on the iPhone train (well, other things, too, but that's the primary one). Which brings up another good point. Apple can open up the iPhone to T-Mobile and that would increase the number of iPhone numbers fairly quickly. In my experience, T-Mobile is even worse than AT&T and their network is even smaller.
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join:2005-03-19 | your wrong and your correct. t-mobile crushes AT&T for customer service. but you are right that their network is smaller. |
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There are a lot of people that are interested in "swooshes", plus more and more people are tying themselves into Apple's ecosystem which only entices consumers to buy more Apple products. Apple has done an awesome job branding and marketing their gear. Full disclosure, I do not own an iPhone or iPod, but I do own three Macs and couldn't be happier with them. |
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said by funchords:said by Rob:but the iPhone has something that the droid doesn't - it has the Apple name behind it. To me, the Apple brand has continued to mean "cool but expensive and incompatible." Buying a phone because it's Apple-branded is like buying a backpack for the Nike "swoosh." Rather foolish, unless you're really into "swooshes." New rumor out. Verizon and Apple working on an 4G LTE iPhone to come out next year.
»www.9to5mac.com/apple_verizon_4g
»fonefrenzy.com/2009/10/18/bigger···s-droid/
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nixenRockin' the BoxenPremium
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Alexandria, VA | Not new. That rumor's a couple months old. People were previously speculating for why VZW was looking to push LTE deployment and noticed that several of the deployment targets corresponded with AT&T/Apple contract renewal and locations of heavy iPhone usage.
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IMO, there's no way this phone can beat out iPhone. It can be "the killer" phone, but the iPhone has something that the droid doesn't - it has the Apple name behind it.
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That's the reason many people, including myself, wont buy one!!!!! Apple stands for "Over Priced". I avoid anything Apple.
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said by Matt:In my experience, T-Mobile is even worse than AT&T and their network is even smaller. HAHA OH MAN you do not know how hard I just laughed when I read that.
AT&T tech support sucks, their network sucks, you know...come to think of it they must do a lot of sucking at their HQ.
I called them to inquire on getting provisioned for VPN on my phone and the "A+ certified" CSR told me I needed an SMS package because VPN goes over SMS. I will never forget it because she labeled herself as A+ certified. |
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| said by k1ll3rdr4g0n:I called them to inquire on getting provisioned for VPN on my phone and the "A+ certified" CSR told me I needed an SMS package because VPN goes over SMS. I will never forget it because she labeled herself as A+ certified. Wow, must be that VPNoSMS protocol that's been rumored to be under development for the past five years. Tunneling packets via SMS... ingenious concept! Better get AT&T's bargain $20 unlimited texting package or else you'll rack up thousands of dollars in overage fees in no time!
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said by nixen:Except that, at least in the U.S., the iPhone also has the "AT&T" name on it (and their associated garbage data networks). That was really what was holding me back for a long time. But I lucked out - so far I have better reception and call quality at home than I did with TMO, and in NYC the phone has been great. Speedtests show around 1200/300, which is enough for my email checking and light browsing. I'm betting that T is pumping a shitload of money into NYC though, and if I travel with this thing I'll get to experience crappy service.
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And of course, although the latest iPhone OS upgrade added SMSVPN tunneling capabilities to the iPhone, AT&T doesn't support it on the iPhone -- yet. |
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For those wondering, this was a Windows Mobile device.
My hypothesis:
I was trying to get provisioned for isp.cingular which gives you a dedicated IP instead of NATing which, supposedly, prevents GRE VPN packets. I believe iPhone users are automatically provisioned for isp.cingular, as some of my iPhone touting co-workers tell me they can VPN into the company network....but I have no proof that they are on isp.cingular. I think the problem could also deal with the fact that with wap.cingular you are regularly getting a new IP, whereas with isp.cingular you should get a fixed IP. |
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I really do not like to say this as the only reason I went back to AT&T was the simple fact that they are the only provider with decent service at my house, but they aren't bad.
Aside from a few minor billing issues over the past couple months service has been good. Aside from that when we decided to sign back up with AT&T I figured that as I was going to sign a deal with the devil I would go ahead and get the iPhone, and it works greats more or less everywhere, including the middle of nowhere. Speeds tend to be around 900K a second.
Albeit, I live just outside DC.
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