 RobIn Deo speramus, God Bless the USAPremium
join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
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Re: The drop dead Apple "Verizon Droid" said by nixen:said by Rob:IMO, there's no way this phone can beat out iPhone. It can be "the killer" phone, but the iPhone has something that the droid doesn't - it has the Apple name behind it. Except that, at least in the U.S., the iPhone also has the "AT&T" name on it (and their associated garbage data networks). Seriously, it's the utter craptacularness of AT&T that keeps me from hopping on the iPhone train (well, other things, too, but that's the primary one). Which brings up another good point. Apple can open up the iPhone to T-Mobile and that would increase the number of iPhone numbers fairly quickly.
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 MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
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said by Rob:said by nixen:said by Rob:IMO, there's no way this phone can beat out iPhone. It can be "the killer" phone, but the iPhone has something that the droid doesn't - it has the Apple name behind it. Except that, at least in the U.S., the iPhone also has the "AT&T" name on it (and their associated garbage data networks). Seriously, it's the utter craptacularness of AT&T that keeps me from hopping on the iPhone train (well, other things, too, but that's the primary one). Which brings up another good point. Apple can open up the iPhone to T-Mobile and that would increase the number of iPhone numbers fairly quickly. In my experience, T-Mobile is even worse than AT&T and their network is even smaller.
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join:2005-03-19 | your wrong and your correct. t-mobile crushes AT&T for customer service. but you are right that their network is smaller. |
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said by Matt:In my experience, T-Mobile is even worse than AT&T and their network is even smaller. HAHA OH MAN you do not know how hard I just laughed when I read that.
AT&T tech support sucks, their network sucks, you know...come to think of it they must do a lot of sucking at their HQ.
I called them to inquire on getting provisioned for VPN on my phone and the "A+ certified" CSR told me I needed an SMS package because VPN goes over SMS. I will never forget it because she labeled herself as A+ certified. |
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| said by k1ll3rdr4g0n:I called them to inquire on getting provisioned for VPN on my phone and the "A+ certified" CSR told me I needed an SMS package because VPN goes over SMS. I will never forget it because she labeled herself as A+ certified. Wow, must be that VPNoSMS protocol that's been rumored to be under development for the past five years. Tunneling packets via SMS... ingenious concept! Better get AT&T's bargain $20 unlimited texting package or else you'll rack up thousands of dollars in overage fees in no time!
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rradina
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Chesterfield, MO | And of course, although the latest iPhone OS upgrade added SMSVPN tunneling capabilities to the iPhone, AT&T doesn't support it on the iPhone -- yet. |
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For those wondering, this was a Windows Mobile device.
My hypothesis:
I was trying to get provisioned for isp.cingular which gives you a dedicated IP instead of NATing which, supposedly, prevents GRE VPN packets. I believe iPhone users are automatically provisioned for isp.cingular, as some of my iPhone touting co-workers tell me they can VPN into the company network....but I have no proof that they are on isp.cingular. I think the problem could also deal with the fact that with wap.cingular you are regularly getting a new IP, whereas with isp.cingular you should get a fixed IP. |
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