 MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
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Re: All that money yet a 400 GB cap I have 3 x Windows Media Center PCs in my house and we stream tons of Hulu and Netflix. You don't have enough time, 3 people don't have enough time, to stream 400GB of Netflix a month, not even in HD; they simply don't offer enough HD content. A regular movie is about 500MB-1GB of transfer so I doubt you're watching 400-800 movies a month. I also game on Xbox 360, work from home, have a VoIP phone, yet combined our peak usage has been in the neighborhood of 150GB a month. 400GB is very reasonable.
And I get my figures from running 3 companies in 3 separate data centers, although I don't need to run my resume down. I'm not saying you can't purchase massive amounts of bandwidth cheaply, but I guarantee it's terribly oversold. My SLAs include uptime, throughput, and latency minimums.
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rebus9
join:2002-03-26
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| said by Matt:And I get my figures from running 3 companies in 3 separate data centers, Which could mean you have 200 servers colocated, or have three shared hosting accounts at $10/each with separate hosting providers. I'm not here to pass judgment, but for the record, just be mindful that "running an internet business" means exactly zero because everyone with a laptop and a $5 shared hosting account can call themselves an internet entrepreneur.
It's become the most tedious, overused catch-phrase of this decade.
said by Matt: although I don't need to run my resume down. Neither do I, but I will offer that my career in this industry covers 26 years in a commercial setting. I've had many job titles, including senior network engineer (I ran the network operations department and reported directly to the CEO) at a large regional ISP that handled over 10,000 dialup users and several thousand DSL subscribers. I've worked daily on equipment that cost more than some people's houses. I remember when we turned up our first DS-3 at more than $30,000 per month and we thought it was a bargain compared to what we paid for the T1's it was replacing. The line card to terminate it cost more than my car at the time.
said by Matt:I'm not saying you can't purchase massive amounts of bandwidth cheaply, but I guarantee it's terribly oversold. And whatever you consider "oversold"-- is nothing compared to how oversold that capped 100 Mbps cable connection is.
My point is, when I can buy 20 Mbps of committed bandwidth on a Fast-E port, with a per-megabit rate under $10, it is highway robbery for a no-SLA, "best effort", residential cable connection to have a ridiculous 400 GB cap at the 100 Mbps tier.
If they want to cap the $39/mo. accounts at 400 GB, that is fine. But when you're selling premium tiers at premium prices, then no, 400 GB is not reasonable. |
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MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | I have 3 full racks and 1 server co-located in a 4th datacenter. |
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rebus9
join:2002-03-26
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| said by Matt:I have 3 full racks and 1 server co-located in a 4th datacenter. You have that much colocated, yet feel $150/mo. for 400 GB of transfer is reasonable?
I would love to have you as a colo customer.  |
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Kewl...
It look like you don't really have time to use your home connection if you're running 3 companies in 3 separate data centers!
Good for you, though! 8-) |
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You know that game companies are starting to offer their products as downloadable apps, right? And that demos are offered on XBox Live Marketplace and PlayStation Network (they run an easy couple hundred megs to a gig or more)?
Just the other day I downloaded 14 demos for my Shiny New PS3. Doing the math on them, I used almost 15GB in just a couple hours.
Oh, and 1080p High-Definition movies are NOT 500MB-1GB. They stream at close to 1Gbps, which for a 90 minute movie would end up being 11.25GB. And there is PLENTY of HD content on the web; not just Netflix and Hulu.
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Correcting you 400-800 movies also translates into 1.5 hrs times that 400-800 in TV ......
thats 600 hrs a tv
divided by 3 = 200 hrs /30days = 6 hrs a day each
aka 5PM to 11PM
six measly hours a day = minimum
then you have that weekend gaming gore fest , buddy wanting a few music downloads to go on his LEVIED CDRS and woa
guess what its damn easy to go past 400GB
WAY easy and now imagine that unlike that 3 person example i have 4 people total on a 4 megabit.
If shaw were here id be able if i was legally allowed to resell out 20 5 megabit accounts at 10$, make a 50$ profit and under cut EVERY ISP IN CANADA.............
the caps kill that however
400/20 = 20GB , thats what this will feel like in scale and what you can share and do
in other words the max number of people in todays age that can use that are aobut 5-10 (80GB down to 40GB )
and you arent streaming very much and you aren't doing much of a need to buy levied cdrs also are you......
guess the music industry will need to double the levy again
WHY?
"cause ISPS capped every one and were not making as much money" |
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