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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
 ·Comcast
| reply to Matt
Re: All that money yet a 400 GB cap I don't know where you're getting your data center numbers from. I can get an unmetered 100 Mbps server (20+ TB, 20,000GB) for $100 per month from a lower-priced provider. I can get a VPS with 400GB of traffic for $10 per month. I can get colocation for a server, including 1500GB of bandwidth, for $50 per month.
That said, 400GB per month would be enough for me on a home internet connection, for now at least. Though I'd much rather have 50/10 or 20/20 than 100/5. | | |
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 MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | said by iansltx:I don't know where you're getting your data center numbers from. I can get an unmetered 100 Mbps server (20+ TB, 20,000GB) for $100 per month from a lower-priced provider. I can get a VPS with 400GB of traffic for $10 per month. I can get colocation for a server, including 1500GB of bandwidth, for $50 per month. That said, 400GB per month would be enough for me on a home internet connection, for now at least. Though I'd much rather have 50/10 or 20/20 than 100/5. I don't deal with "lower-priced providers" as I believe I stated earlier in the thread. If a data center doesn't have at least 3 Tier-1 connections plus multiple GigE links to public peering points, the bandwidth you're buying is oversold. The Planet has over 250Gbps of connectivity for example. And I'll add that unless you're dealing directly with the data center, what you're buying is almost certainly oversold because you're buying from a reseller.
Regardless, getting 400GB to the end-user at 100Mbps across the last mile is absolutely worth $150/month.
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 IgnitePremium,VIP
join:2004-03-18
UK
1 edit | said by Matt:I don't deal with "lower-priced providers" as I believe I stated earlier in the thread. If a data center doesn't have at least 3 Tier-1 connections plus multiple GigE links to public peering points, the bandwidth you're buying is oversold. Like OVH for example and their '7Gbps' network?
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Paris 19, datacenter owned by Ovh, 2700m2, capacity: 350 rack space, available offers: servers for ovh.com websites, web hosting, dedicated servers lease, administrators' service: 24/7
Paris 11, datacenter owned by Free Telecom, 300m2 capacity: 180 rack space, available offers: housing, ip transfer
Redbus, datacenter owned by Redbus, 3000m2
capacity: 53 rack spaces
available offers: housing, IP transit
Telehouse 1, datacenter owned by Telehouse, 1500m2
available offers: ip transit
Telehouse 2, datacenter owned by Telehouse, 2000m2
available offers: ip transit
Global Switch, datacenter owned by Global Switch, 15,000m2
available offers: ip transit
quote:
optical fibres network connected in double safe circulation
connections of 2 * 10 Gbps minimal traffic
IP multihomed network is passing through 3 independent transit providers,
multiple peering through peering points in Paris, London, Frankfurt and Amsterdam,
total bandwidth of network 120Gbps
They need to fix that total bandwidth though it's quite a bit higher than that now, silly OVH.
»weathermap.ovh.net/europe
Anyway, point is that you're paying a lot for your bandwidth, ISPs won't be paying anywhere near that much. If I can purchase the quantities of bandwidth I can from OVH as a single user I can imagine Shaw and its' millions of customers would be getting bandwidth for less.
ISPs don't care about quality bandwidth for their residential services anyway, business maybe, residential pfft. | |
rebus9
join:2002-03-26
Tampa Bay Reviews:
·RoadRunner Cable
 ·Verizon FiOS
| reply to Matt
said by Matt:If a data center doesn't have at least 3 Tier-1 connections plus multiple GigE links to public peering points, the bandwidth you're buying is oversold. Collectively, the entire internet is oversold. Some parts of it moreso than others.
For example, the Level3 POP in Tampa (their gateway facility at 7909 Woodland Center), which is in the middle of their southeast ring, has 20 Gbps of capacity facing north to Jacksonville and south to Miami.
I can assure you, they cumulatively sell a LOT more than 20 Gbps aggregate to their customers in the Tampa Bay region.
Yes, they oversell. So does everybody. But as long as you engineer for your current and near-term expected traffic-- and ramp up capacity as trends indicate-- this is neither problematic nor irresponsible.
So please stop using the "oversold" bit. It's nothing more than a marketing pitch from guys with big hair who know nothing about engineering a network. | |
IgnitePremium,VIP
join:2004-03-18
UK | Yep, some contention means nothing so long as the apparent congestion is kept to nil. Selling 100Gbps of 20 is just fine so long as you never fill the 20. | |
iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
·Comcast
| reply to Matt
Then my example of ThePlanet stands, though they oversell more than the average high-end dedicated server farm.
SoftLayer has a better network than ThePlanet (though they don't have as many Gbps coming in, they have less servers to spread it around to) and they sell bandwidth at 10¢ per GB, piecemeal. So 400GB would be $40.
Want three Tier 1 carriers? How about Level3, Savvis and Global Crossing, plus InterNAP with the rest? | |
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