Citizen identification

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lordfly join:2000-10-12 Homestead, FL	Citizen identification I am surprised they haven't setup a body to assign a block of IPv6 addresses to be assigned to each citizen. So each person born would be identified by their IPv6 address instead of their name. The future is here!
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FloridaBoy join:2009-06-22 Bradenton, FL	Great another number that can be used to identify me!!
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patcat88 join:2002-04-05 Jamaica, NY kudos:1	reply to lordfly Are we going to have a problem with IP6 address exhaustion? It seems everything is getting its own BLOCK of IP6 addresses, wikipedia says half the bits (64 bits) have stopped being internet endpoints and just started being MAC addresses. Soon parts of a microprocessor, then each transistor will be assigned an IPv6 address. And 10 years from now we will exhaust the IPv6 space.
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matrix3D join:2006-09-27 Middletown, CT	I seriously doubt it. I think I remember reading something somewhere that the address space for IPv6 is so large that it could support some insane number of addresses on a per square foot or square mile... I don't remember off the top of my head exactly what this was -- in the millions? However, I took the math somebody did on Wikipedia and reposted it here: "The very large IPv6 address space supports a total of 2128 (about 3.4×1038) addresses—or approximately 5×1028 (roughly 295) addresses for each of the roughly 6.5 billion (6.5×109) people alive in 2006.[10] In a different perspective, this is 252 addresses for every observable star in the known universe." »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6
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elios join:2005-11-15 Springfield, MO	reply to patcat88 do you have ANY idea how many IPv6 address there are? IPv6 addresses are 128 bits long The new address space thus supports 2^128 (about 3.4×10^38) addresses 340,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 addresses
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patcat88 join:2002-04-05 Jamaica, NY kudos:1	reply to matrix3D said by matrix3D: However, I took the math somebody did on Wikipedia and reposted it here: "The very large IPv6 address space supports a total of 2128 (about 3.4×10^38) addresses—or approximately 5×10^28 (roughly 295) addresses for each of the roughly 6.5 billion (6.5×109) people alive in 2006.[10] In a different perspective, this is 252 addresses for every observable star in the known universe." »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6 But we already gave half the address space away to MAC addresses. Why don't we give away an address to each possible process on each computer in the world? Why not reserve an address for each possible thread of each possible process of each possible microprocessor for each possible person for each possible location (GPS coords) on earth? why not turn IPv6 addresses into a global cloud computing supercomputer, all RAM bits in the world will be addressable through a unique IP address!
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koitsu Premium,MVM join:2002-07-16 Mountain View, CA kudos:14 2 edits	reply to patcat88 I doubt IPv6 block exhaustion will ever become a problem. The real "problem" is convincing the world, with a big focus on the United States, to "flip the switch" from IPv4 to IPv6. Europe and Asia are ready for this, given that they're the ones who have to fight/scream to get more IPv4 addressing space, while we don't. I will point out that the number of IPv6 routes currently announced on the Internet is around 2000. Compare that to over 300,000 for IPv4. Personally? I think we have enough addressing space with IPv4 at this point, assuming that MIT, IBM, US DoD, Xerox, and some other big names start returning portions of their /8 netblocks to ARIN. As for consumers, I'm not really sure IPv6 will do anything, given the pre-existing adoption of NAT routers. Technically all residential companies would have to start selling are residential IPv6 firewalls (e.g. a router without NAT) and voila, no more port forwarding or other annoyances. -- Making life hard for others since 1977. I speak for myself and not my employer/affiliates of my employer.
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AstroBoy join:2008-08-08 Parkville, MD	reply to elios That's enough to give every person 5,666,666,666,666,666,666,666 IP addresses each. I don't even know what that is called! Maybe 5.6 billion trillion?
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matrix3D join:2006-09-27 Middletown, CT	reply to patcat88 I'm assuming your post is meant to be sarcastic... but if it's not, why would a process or a thread even NEED an IP address? Only individual nodes or devices need an IP address.
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n2jtx join:2001-01-13 Glen Head, NY Reviews: ·Optimum Online 1 edit	reply to AstroBoy said by AstroBoy: That's enough to give every person 5,666,666,666,666,666,666,666 IP addresses each. I don't even know what that is called! Maybe 5.6 billion trillion? Just think how much money ISP's can make if they only give you ONE IPv6 address and charge you for extras. Since NAT is not supported under IPv6 (currently) you will need extra IPv6 addresses to get all of your IP based equipment connected. The same equipment you currently have running through your NAT based router. -- I support the right to keep and arm bears.
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DrModem Premium join:2006-10-19 USA kudos:1	reply to AstroBoy 5.6 sextillion
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El Quintron ... a faint odor of kerosene Premium join:2008-04-28 Etobicoke, ON kudos:2 Reviews: ·TekSavvy DSL ·voip.ms ·WIND Mobile ·TekSavvy Cable	reply to n2jtx said by n2jtx: Just think how much money ISP's can make if they only give you ONE IPv6 address and charge you for extras. Since NAT is not supported under IPv6 (currently) you will need extra IPv6 addresses to get all of your IP based equipment connected. Quick point: IPv6 eliminates the need for NAT altogether. By having a unique IP for each device you eliminate the need of having your router translate your internal IPs to the outside internet. Someone can explain this better than me but that the general idea. -- They vilify us, the scoundrels do, when there is only this difference, they rob the poor under the cover of law, forsooth, and we plunder the rich under the protection of our own courage.
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AstroBoy join:2008-08-08 Parkville, MD	reply to DrModem said by DrModem: 5.6 sextillion lol he said sex. Now I am excited!
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SLD Premium join:2002-04-17 San Francisco, CA	reply to matrix3D Lets hope they can keep up with dense blade server installations
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castsucks @sbcglobal.net	reply to n2jtx said by n2jtx: said by AstroBoy: That's enough to give every person 5,666,666,666,666,666,666,666 IP addresses each. I don't even know what that is called! Maybe 5.6 billion trillion? That is comcast plan $5/m per IP $7/m per SD cable box $10/m per HD box $15-$20/m per HD DVR.
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Gbcue Almost P.E. Premium join:2001-09-30 Santa Rosa, CA kudos:8 Reviews: ·AT&T U-Verse	reply to lordfly said by lordfly: I am surprised they haven't setup a body to assign a block of IPv6 addresses to be assigned to each citizen. So each person born would be identified by their IPv6 address instead of their name. The future is here! Except this time, nobody will be able to remember it! Great for those security conscious folks and ID paranoia. For security purposes, please enter the last 10 digits of your IPv6 and press the pound key. -- My BLOG! Black Friday Ads
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Radio Active My pappy's a pistol Premium join:2003-01-31 Fullerton, CA	reply to AstroBoy said by AstroBoy: That's enough to give every person 5,666,666,666,666,666,666,666 IP addresses each. I don't even know what that is called! Maybe 5.6 billion trillion? 5.6 septillion? -- I started out with nothing. Today, I still have most of it.
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dandin1 join:2008-05-27	reply to lordfly quote: a block of IPv6 addresses to be assigned to each citizen IP addresses are not just random numbers, switches use them to know where to send your traffic. BGP routers maintain a table of IP address prefixes, which they use to know where to send traffic based on an IP. An entry could say "Send all traffic destined for 96.152.. to [this ISP]". An address for each person would require as many entries in that table as there are people on the Internet! Currently with IPv4, ISPs have multiple non-contiguous blocks of IPs assigned to them. This has caused routing tables to grow in size exponentially over the years. IPv6 is designed to solve this problem, since allocations are so large that there is no reason an ISP would require a second one. Yhea I understand your idea is tongue in cheek, but I just thought I'd explain why it would be counter to IPv6. And that's without mentioning privacy, logistics, and other technical problems.
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FBGuy yippee ki yay Premium join:2005-03-19	reply to DrModem you have won 5 interwebs for bring sex into a discussion. congratulations!
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GNH Tesla Recoiled Premium join:1999-12-20 Arlington, TX	reply to matrix3D I remember when someone thought IPv4 would NEVER be exhausted...
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