 rawgerzThe hell was that?Premium
join:2004-10-03
Grove City, PA | reply to TSI Gabe
Re: TekSavvy What good is this for the end user? Harder to do tracerts, remember your own IP, and probably uniquely identify you?
No thank you.
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 nixenRockin' the BoxenPremium
join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA | said by rawgerz:What good is this for the end user? Harder to do tracerts, remember your own IP, and probably uniquely identify you? No thank you. It means there's enough address space that you'll be able to telnet to your toaster from your island vacation spot.
But seriously...
- Whether you're IPv4 or IPv6, you'll still have two end-points and intervening routers. So, you'll still be able to trace ...at least in as much as the routers will honor the trace packet requests (as, even quite a few IPv4 routers no longer do).
- Why are you trying to remember your own IP? The whole point of DNS is to obviate the need to know/remember IP addresses
- As to unique identification: if you're coming into my network from your Cable or DSL modem, I'm going to be able to uniquely identify you. Nothing really changes.
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It's hard enough to get end users to ping 192.168.1.1. Just think of the fun in getting them to ping 2001:0db8:85a3:08d3:1319:8a2e:0370:7348. |
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 tubbynetreminds me of the danse russePremium,MVM
join:2008-01-16
Chandler, AZ | reply to nixen
said by nixen:It means there's enough address space that you'll be able to telnet to your toaster from your island vacation spot. however, with this newfound flexibility comes the responsibility of the end user to secure all internet facing devices. granted - nat isn't much security, but it does provide a first layer to keep the script kiddies out. i can just see the port-scans going on scanning hunndreds of blocks per second and looking for openings and exploits. for the majority of embedded devices, there is no real way to "patch" the system without going through a bit of trouble. i can see a lot of pwnage happening.
q.
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said by battleop:It's hard enough to get end users to ping 192.168.1.1. Just think of the fun in getting them to ping 2001:0db8:85a3:08d3:1319:8a2e:0370:7348. lol according to wikipedia though the localhost is ::1 at least you get that! |
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nixenRockin' the BoxenPremium
join:2002-10-04
Alexandria, VA | reply to tubbynet
said by tubbynet:said by nixen:It means there's enough address space that you'll be able to telnet to your toaster from your island vacation spot. however, with this newfound flexibility comes the responsibility of the end user to secure all internet facing devices. granted - nat isn't much security, but it does provide a first layer to keep the script kiddies out. i can just see the port-scans going on scanning hunndreds of blocks per second and looking for openings and exploits. for the majority of embedded devices, there is no real way to "patch" the system without going through a bit of trouble. i can see a lot of pwnage happening. q. Would suck to have your toaster hacked. And given the auto ad hoc networking that the one WiFi consortium is working on, it wont be long before our ultra-connected appliances rise up and kill us!
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said by rawgerz:What good is this for the end user? Harder to do tracerts, remember your own IP, and probably uniquely identify you? No thank you. Whatever happened to DNS?
But in all honesty, there also is the 6-to-4 option. |
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said by battleop:It's hard enough to get end users to ping 192.168.1.1. Just think of the fun in getting them to ping 2001:0db8:85a3:08d3:1319:8a2e:0370:7348. That's why you ping ::1. |
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brad
join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON | reply to tubbynet
said by tubbynet:however, with this newfound flexibility comes the responsibility of the end user to secure all internet facing devices. granted - nat isn't much security, but it does provide a first layer to keep the script kiddies out. i can just see the port-scans going on scanning hunndreds of blocks per second and looking for openings and exploits. for the majority of embedded devices, there is no real way to "patch" the system without going through a bit of trouble. i can see a lot of pwnage happening. q. So that will require what sort of changes over existing routers? *thinks* *thinks* oh wait. nothing. OMG! The sky is falling, the sky is falling! |
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 TomS_Git-r-donePremium,MVM
join:2002-07-19
Ireland
kudos:1 | reply to battleop
said by battleop:It's hard enough to get end users to ping 192.168.1.1. Just think of the fun in getting them to ping 2001:0db8:85a3:08d3:1319:8a2e:0370:7348. Thats exaggerated.
They will only have to ping 2001:db8:85a3:8d3:1319:8a2e:370:7348. 
You dont have to pad it out with 0's. |
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