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NefCanuck

join:2007-06-26
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reply to Kearnstd

Re: I know this sounds crazy

said by Kearnstd:

but that is innovation and the entertainment industry wont have any of that.
But it's not just the entertainment industry itself at stake here.

Imagine what would happen if it were to come to pass that films were released on iTunes the day they were out in theatres (or say within a week of theatre release?)

The movie theatre business would be decimated to the point where you would end up with maybe one theatre chain left in the entire US and sporadic locations at best. (This is already happening in Canada, one major chain left under which several different "brands" operate and AMC)

NefCanuck


sirwoogie
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That means theaters would also have to adapt. Personally, I think that theaters have really let themselves slide the past decade. They're all about turnaround and soaking you for amenities at the location. People go to a theater for the experience as well as the movie. Most people have setups in their homes that are perfectly adequate to have a high resolution and great sounding viewing experience (and the ability to pause, cheap food, etc).

Make it a reason to go to the theater again. Don't charge me $10 for a ticket, $4 for a drink and $5 for a popcorn to sit in a cheap seat viewing where the floor is sticky, some of the seats have holes in them, and the screen is so dim that you have to squint.



Pirate515
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said by sirwoogie:

Make it a reason to go to the theater again. Don't charge me $10 for a ticket, $4 for a drink and $5 for a popcorn to sit in a cheap seat viewing where the floor is sticky, some of the seats have holes in them, and the screen is so dim that you have to squint.
Not sure if this is true, but from what I have heard, the main reason why popcorn/food/drinks are overpriced at the movie theaters is because the studios are keeping most if not all of the proceeds of box office sales. Very little if any of that $10 that you pay for a movie ticket goes back to the theater, so they are kinda forced to rape you on everything else.
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said by Pirate515:

said by sirwoogie:

Make it a reason to go to the theater again. Don't charge me $10 for a ticket, $4 for a drink and $5 for a popcorn to sit in a cheap seat viewing where the floor is sticky, some of the seats have holes in them, and the screen is so dim that you have to squint.
Not sure if this is true, but from what I have heard, the main reason why popcorn/food/drinks are overpriced at the movie theaters is because the studios are keeping most if not all of the proceeds of box office sales. Very little if any of that $10 that you pay for a movie ticket goes back to the theater, so they are kinda forced to rape you on everything else.
The thing is, that's a fight between the studios and the theatre chains, not the consumer. That battle should be fought some other way instead of overcharging the customer.
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moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
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reply to Pirate515

said by Pirate515:

Not sure if this is true, but from what I have heard, the main reason why popcorn/food/drinks are overpriced at the movie theaters is because the studios are keeping most if not all of the proceeds of box office sales. Very little if any of that $10 that you pay for a movie ticket goes back to the theater, so they are kinda forced to rape you on everything else.
That is true. ALL of the money from the tickets go back to the studios and to the people that book the movies at the theater. The entire operating budget for the theater locations comes from that concession stand.


danclan

join:2005-11-01
Midlothian, VA

reply to Pirate515
MMM no its a sliding scale on seat receipts.

Example:

The first 2 weeks the bulk goes to studio say 90/10 split then it begins to swap as time goes on.



AlexNYC

join:2001-06-02
Edwards, CO

reply to moonpuppy
— THE $9 TICKET BREAKDOWN —

Theater receives: $4.05
Helps pay for everything from maintaining the popcorn machines to air conditioning to ticket takers' salaries

Studio receives: $4.95
This amount is broken down into sub-categories:

* ADVERTISING and MARKETING: $1.90
Nearly 75% of Public Enemies' estimated $100 million marketing budget goes to TV, radio, magazine, Internet, newspaper, and billboard ads. The rest covers expenses like market research and preview trailers.

* PRODUCTION: $1.54
Includes the cost of sets, costumes, equipment rentals, filming permits, insurance, and such.

* DISTRIBUTION: $0.90
Ten percent of every ticket goes directly to Universal Studios to cover costs such as sending movie reels to theaters.

* ACTORS: $0.61
A-list star Johnny Depp's upfront pay for Public Enemies was an estimated $20 million; co-star Christian Bale probably got more than $10 million.


cornelius785

join:2006-10-26
Worcester, MA

reply to Pirate515
geez, so the movie makers (and cronnies) are raping not only the consumer, but the movie theaters also? damn....

when it comes to these big time movies, i just don't feel pity for the movie makers and such when their budget is covered in days (or maybe weeks for some) from releasing the movie and then they still charge a crap load of money when it comes out on dvd. don't they have enough money already? in general, i don't have any pity for the entertainment industry(movies, music, sports, tv shows) when they complain about something and despise any anti-consumer action they do.



Transmaster
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join:2001-06-20
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reply to NefCanuck
Watching a movie like Avitar on an iTouch ya..right. I wouldn't pay ten cents for this pleasure.

Why is anyone suprised by this crap from the MPAA and the studios. This business has been filled with a bunch of cut throat crooks from it's very beginnings when it started in New York City a 100 years ago. The reason why some of these early production companies moved to the then gated community of Hollywood Land was to put 2300 miles between themselves and the mafia like studios in New York which often sent thugs around to these "independent" studios to browbeat and physically assult their employees with beatings and shootings. There where several studios that were burnt to the ground with arson fires. Incidently the actors working at these studios where then called Movies because they where always on the move between studios in New York and Southern California, this is where the term "Movie" came from it has nothing to do with moving pictures. Study their history and you will not be suprised at anything the movie industry does.



Gbcue
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said by Transmaster:

Watching a movie like Avitar on an iTouch ya..right. I wouldn't pay ten cents for this pleasure.

Why is anyone suprised by this crap from the MPAA and the studios. This business has been filled with a bunch of cut throat crooks from it's very beginnings when it started in New York City a 100 years ago. The reason why some of these early production companies moved to the then gated community of Hollywood Land was to put 2300 miles between themselves and the mafia like studios in New York which often sent thugs around to these "independent" studios to browbeat and physically assult their employees with beatings and shootings. There where several studios that were burnt to the ground with arson fires. Incidently the actors working at these studios where then called Movies because they where always on the move between studios in New York and Southern California, this is where the term "Movie" came from it has nothing to do with moving pictures. Study their history and you will not be suprised at anything the movie industry does.
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PapaMidnight

join:2009-01-13
Baltimore, MD

reply to AlexNYC

said by AlexNYC:

— THE $9 TICKET BREAKDOWN —

Theater receives: $4.05
Helps pay for everything from maintaining the popcorn machines to air conditioning to ticket takers' salaries

Studio receives: $4.95
This amount is broken down into sub-categories:

* ADVERTISING and MARKETING: $1.90
Nearly 75% of Public Enemies' estimated $100 million marketing budget goes to TV, radio, magazine, Internet, newspaper, and billboard ads. The rest covers expenses like market research and preview trailers.

* PRODUCTION: $1.54
Includes the cost of sets, costumes, equipment rentals, filming permits, insurance, and such.

* DISTRIBUTION: $0.90
Ten percent of every ticket goes directly to Universal Studios to cover costs such as sending movie reels to theaters.

* ACTORS: $0.61
A-list star Johnny Depp's upfront pay for Public Enemies was an estimated $20 million; co-star Christian Bale probably got more than $10 million.
That counts for a $9 ticket. Then there are $15 tickets and I'm not talking IMAX (Anyone who's been to the 3rd Street Promenade in Los Angeles or any other Pacific Theaters knows what I mean).


Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus

join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY

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reply to Gbcue

= Gbcue See ProfileCitation needed greatly.
If by citation you mean source it my information, sure, This information is from a very interesting 3 part documentary series on the early History of Hollywood and was a BBC production which as far as I know never aired in the States As soon as I get home I will get you the info on the series.
It is fascinating!

The Movie cartel in New York which was trying to drive these independents out of business sent one of their thugs out to Hollywood Land to strong arm one of these studios he flashed a revolver at the director during the making of a Western during filming, he did not realize the Cowboys on the set where the real thing and where armed themselves, he found himself with a bunch of rifles and pistols pointed at him, this incident was even incorporated into this Western.
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Desdinova
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Gaithersburg, MD

reply to Gbcue
Also read An Empire Of Their Own by Neal Gabler. It's one of the best books I've ever read about the history of the film industry.

Ironically, though, back at the beginning, it wasn't the studios so much as the Edison Trust that created most of the issues:

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_Pic···_Company



Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus

join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY

Exactly the Edison Trust was the cartel in New York that used the strong arm tactics. A group of largest studios got to gather under the Edison banner and decided to force everyone else out. If you Study Thomas Edison he was not a nice guy he ripped so many people out of patients and ideas.

I am still looking for the BBC program It is somewhere on 5 gigs worth of hard drives. I can't remember the exact name of the series so none of my searches have found it, grrrr I want to watch it again myself.
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