Alexoi
join:2007-03-23
El Segundo, CA
1 edit | Is Gear Score now the new requirement to get pug invite?
Last few weeks I was trying to get in pug with my dk to do some 10 or 25man raid (toc, ony, voa, etc). I whispered for invite and most of the time I didn't get an answer. I didn't see this happened before. So one time I logon to my ret pally and whispered to the same guy who was LF dps. I got the invite. The raid leader said he still need couple of dps. So I asked him "Do you want dk? He said "yes, they love dk because of their high dps output". Then I said my friend whispered you earlier for invite and didn't get a reply. He said because his gear score is not high enough. I didn't see this new requirement in the past until maybe someone wrote an addon to check gear score and now people use it to check if they are geared or not. I had seen people spamming LF dps with gear score with 4000+. Some even said require 4500+.
Not only raid, the most common one is heroic toc that people check gear score as well. |
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drew
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Port Orchard, WA
clubs: | I didn't even need to read your post. The subject was clear enough.
The answer is: Most of the time, yes. |
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BountyHunter
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join:2008-10-14
Miami Beach, FL | agree with drew, and the few times I pugged when raid leader wasnt cheacking was a fail run most of time. |
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dose
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join:2000-10-09
A-town
| reply to Alexoi
Gearscore is the new DPS.
Instead of people spamming LFG or Trade with arbitrary DPS claims they now spam their gearscore as the base credential for joining a raid.
I think it's just the easiest way for lazy raid leaders to inv/decline people to their parties. While gear does come into play in some instances (I wouldn't want a bunch of T7 geared people in a ToGC-25 run), it certainly doesn't tell the whole story about a player's capabilities.
I just say oh well when people ask for GS, there's always another pug out there!
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weaseled386
join:2008-04-13
Port Orange, FL | reply to Alexoi
Yup, the new way that's supposed to separate the baddies from the goodies. All it does is take your gear level, enchants & gems and does some nerd math. My nerd math is in the high 2700's; I've only ever seen one person over 3000. |
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xcal78
join:2009-02-27
Waltham, MA | reply to Alexoi
It depends on your server. On my server no one even knows that add-on exists so it's absolutely not a requirement on my server. My server uses wow-heroes to check pugs so there's nothing you need to do there. |
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weaseled386
join:2008-04-13
Port Orange, FL | reply to Alexoi
Well, there is the addon.... but most on my server use WoW-Heroes. If you're telling a pug leader your GS make sure to tell them which its based off of. |
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xcal78
join:2009-02-27
Waltham, MA
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| said by weaseled386  :Well, there is the addon.... but most on my server use WoW-Heroes. If you're telling a pug leader your GS make sure to tell them which its based off of. Exactly if you said your 4,500-5,000 rated on my server people would laugh at you and you'd never get an invite. They work with wow-heroes so it's impossible to get that kind of a score. |
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xenograffiti
join:2009-06-19
Dallas, TX | reply to Alexoi
and www.pugchecker.com too
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bradleym
join:2002-08-05
Dunfermline, IL | reply to Alexoi
It's huge on Mal'Ganis right now. Seems like 4500 is the minimum for most raids these days. These days people want achievement/gearscore/spec linked before you get an invite. I think it's dumb, but then again I don't raid in pugs. |
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drew
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Mal'Ganis is the NYC of WoW Servers. Huge melting pot and every bad habit that could possibly exist has made it's way there.
But the good side is that there are so many various cultures, there's always a good place to eat at, no matter what time it is.
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siscothekid
join:2009-08-28
Lynwood, CA | reply to Alexoi
This will deffenetly help a little bit, but gear rating still doesnt determine skill ive met alot of geared players that are just plain retarded.  |
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quatra
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join:2003-06-22
Matthews, NC
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| reply to Alexoi
While it is silly that people gearscore for naxx10 for most content I'm interested in running if the pug leader invites immediately without checking my gearscore I've found the pug is 10x more likely to fail. I use the gearscore addon that is popular on many servers but wow-heroes is a more useful # (the gearscore addon only considers item level of the gear you have equipped - in my PvP gear I have 5300 gearscore but I wouldn't invite someone in full PvP gear for totgc). |
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xenograffiti
join:2009-06-19
Dallas, TX | reply to Alexoi
RL of the Onyxia 25 I did Sunday was agonizing over who he should invite for the last DPS spot, a mage with a very high gearscore or a priest he'd run with before that he knew was "leet". Easy decision imo - known quality > numbers |
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drew
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xenograffiti
join:2009-06-19
Dallas, TX | You'd think so. |
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muzscman
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said by xenograffiti :RL of the Onyxia 25 I did Sunday was agonizing over who he should invite for the last DPS spot, a mage with a very high gearscore or a priest he'd run with before that he knew was "leet". Easy decision imo - known quality > numbers I ran voa 25 with a pug last night. Myself and one other mage. My gear score according to the addon was just under 4700. His gear score was equal to mine. Both of us were arcane mages.
I finished #3 overall DPS for the raid. He finished #12 or #14 or something. My average dps was just under 5k while his was barely at 3500.....
It's not all about the gear score.
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Sefirot
join:2009-09-11
Albany, GA
| reply to drew
said by drew :Mal'Ganis is the NYC of WoW Servers. Huge melting pot and every bad habit that could possibly exist has made it's way there. But the good side is that there are so many various cultures, there's always a good place to eat at, no matter what time it is. ^ This made me lol.
But, as far as Mal'Ganis goes thats all I ever see when I'm in LFG or Trade chat. Something along the lines of "LFM (Raid) GS 4500+ and link Achievement or ignore." |
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weaseled386
join:2008-04-13
Port Orange, FL
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Many of us understand its not all about the GS numbers, but some people only see in black and white. To those people your either good or bad, and (obviously) if you've farmed all T9 you must be 'leet!
Most of us know that's NOT the case. I have a Mage friend in full T9 and SUCKS. I decided to go with the badge gear, and still rocking Naxx trinkets... and absolutely rape him on meters. I don't care if you have a GS of 1000 or 3000.... if you don't now your rotation you're a baddie. |
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stvnbrs
join:2009-03-17
1 edit | reply to Alexoi
Tried to get into a Ulduar 10 pug the other day, running 4500+ gearscore, was booted bc RL said gearscore wasn't high enough. Bad thing is when I told him I am already 2pT9 and 2pT8.5 got a reinvite due to his mod not working properly. Left the raid though when they said doing hard modes and most ppl hadn't even been to Ulduar. |
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