jfmezeiPremium
join:2007-01-03
Pointe-Claire, QC
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| NAT isn't dead, ISPs will charge for IPs Do you serriously think that accountants at ISPs won't see revenue potential when customers want to connect their toaster to the internet ?
As long as ISPs charge more for multiple IPs than they do for a single IP, then NAT will continue to exist.
And in terms of address exhaustion, if every mosquito in Nunavut/NWT/Yukon (Canada) as well as every bush fly in central Australia were given their IP address, the address space would quickly be exhausted  |
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nosx
join:2004-12-27
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kudos:5 | You wont be getting "an IP" anymore from your provider.
For their routers to forward IPv6 packets in hardware (ASICs) the prefix length needs to be like a /64 or larger.
They wont be able to economicly assign you just one IP, they couldnt keep the routing table in memory to play those kinds of games. |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
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said by jfmezei:And in terms of address exhaustion, if every mosquito in Nunavut/NWT/Yukon (Canada) as well as every bush fly in central Australia were given their IP address, the address space would quickly be exhausted No
10 quintillion insects on earth
(2^128) / (10 * (10^18)) = 3.40282367 × 10^19
but if each insect was given a range, so each insect can have any MAC address he wants under him,
(2^64) / (10 * (10^18)) = 1.84467441 we are in big trouble |
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brad
join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON | reply to jfmezei
said by jfmezei:Do you serriously think that accountants at ISPs won't see revenue potential when customers want to connect their toaster to the internet ? As long as ISPs charge more for multiple IPs than they do for a single IP, then NAT will continue to exist. When I have a /64 at home or even a /48 I can connect thousands of toasters and its all the same price.
Even the smaller allocations I have seen being discussed by ISPs for a starting point for residential connections still have a handful of addresses at the worst case scenario. So I don't see this being much of an issue.
said by jfmezei:And in terms of address exhaustion, if every mosquito in Nunavut/NWT/Yukon (Canada) as well as every bush fly in central Australia were given their IP address, the address space would quickly be exhausted You seem to need some help with your math.
Until humans start expanding to other planets with many many many times more mosquitoes, bush fly and many thousands of other insects then there isn't anything to worry about |
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KearnstdElf WizardPremium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
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the thing is i cant see ISPs issuing more then one IP, sure they can issue a block to each account but you know they will only let each account have maybe five if you are lucky. they exist to make money and what better way then to charge for each IP device. anything else would make the investors unhappy.
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dmj
join:2002-01-05
Hoffman Estates, IL | I agree completely. Once your ISP can determine how many devices you have connected, they're going to find a way to charge for each and every one of them. Probably some sort of package deal... 5 devices connected for $59 a month, etc.. |
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