iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | reply to gpmoo7
Re: AVG off 11.4 GB/month shows caps not out of line I'm pretty sure that Cisco picked twenty relatively high-profile broadband providers. Also, 11.4 GB per connection seems to be about right... |
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 tubbynetreminds me of the danse russePremium,MVM
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Chandler, AZ | said by iansltx:I'm pretty sure that Cisco picked twenty relatively high-profile broadband providers. not quite an assumption i'm willing to make. i would assume that most of these isps would have to have a working relationship with cisco, in the form of account managers and sales engineers. through these relationships, cisco would pitch the box that collects the survey data onto the isp network.
a company that is running juniper switch/routers utilising alcatel dslams or motorola cmts units is not going to have the working relationship/trust with cisco to say "sure, through that big box collecting data into the network". in fact, just like there is an mac vs. windows debate, there is the same in the enterprise/service provider space with juniper and cisco (and some others like force10). some people patently refuse to run c* gear because they only like j* gear. from an issue of interoperability, it makes sense to stick with what you have, but i digress.
at any rate, if the isp does not have a working relationship with cisco, they aren't going to be part of this survey. i would say that this cuts out a good chunk of isps from the mix.
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iansltx
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Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Comcast uses Cisco. Pretty sure AT&T does. TWC probably does. Though Comcast doesn't use Cisco on the CMTS side (because their CMTSes don't know how to load balance worth a crap). |
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| said by iansltx:Comcast uses Cisco. Pretty sure AT&T does. There is very little Cisco equipment in the AT&T Central Offices. What Cisco equipment is there is currently being phased out for Juniper (MX480's and MX960's). The VRAD backbone is Alcatel routers & switches. |
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 MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | reply to iansltx
said by iansltx:Comcast uses Cisco. Pretty sure AT&T does. TWC probably does. Though Comcast doesn't use Cisco on the CMTS side (because their CMTSes don't know how to load balance worth a crap). Time Warner definitely does.
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 jester121Premium
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Lake Zurich, IL
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said by tubbynet:said by iansltx:I'm pretty sure that Cisco picked twenty relatively high-profile broadband providers. not quite an assumption i'm willing to make. i would assume that most of these isps would have to have a working relationship with cisco, in the form of account managers and sales engineers. through these relationships, cisco would pitch the box that collects the survey data onto the isp network. a company that is running juniper switch/routers utilising alcatel dslams or motorola cmts units is not going to have the working relationship/trust with cisco to say "sure, through that big box collecting data into the network". in fact, just like there is an mac vs. windows debate, there is the same in the enterprise/service provider space with juniper and cisco (and some others like force10). some people patently refuse to run c* gear because they only like j* gear. from an issue of interoperability, it makes sense to stick with what you have, but i digress. at any rate, if the isp does not have a working relationship with cisco, they aren't going to be part of this survey. i would say that this cuts out a good chunk of isps from the mix. So be it. Please explain why ISPs using non-Cisco gear would expect to see drastically different results, if they had chosen to collect the same metrics? |
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tubbynetreminds me of the danse russePremium,MVM
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Chandler, AZ | said by jester121:Please explain why ISPs using non-Cisco gear would expect to see drastically different results, if they had chosen to collect the same metrics? the metrics may be the same, but the data outcomes could be drastically affected. again, this is a survey of *20* isps spread across the globe. because of the differences in content, restrictions, cultures, norms, and societal emphasis on technology, it is difficult to put anything into a "cookie cutter". sure, worldwide monthly average consumption is 11 gigs. great. however, that doesn't account for every isp in every part of the country and there is no differentiation between regions of the globe.
while you could make the argument that cisco wouldn't publish these results if they weren't accurate, i contend that the addition of several larger isps in each region and a breakout of each regions monthly consumption would be a better indicator.
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