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 funchordsHelloPremium,MVM join:2001-03-11 Yarmouth Port, MA kudos:5 4 edits | This is a win for Canadian consumers! To begin, I would disagree with Karl's article, slightlysaid by Karl Bode 's article :While the new rules don't prohibit Canadian ISPs from imposing the network management of their choice, The new rules require that any discrimination (think DPI-based throttling or degrading) complained about be justified:
said by »www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2009/2009-657.htm at 43 :In the case of an ITMP that results in any degree of discrimination or preference: * demonstrate that the ITMP is designed to address the need and achieve the purpose and effect in question, and nothing else; * establish that the ITMP results in discrimination or preference as little as reasonably possible; * demonstrate that any harm to a secondary ISP, end-user, or any other person is as little as reasonably possible; and * explain why, in the case of a technical ITMP, network investment or economic approaches alone would not reasonably address the need and effectively achieve the same purpose as the ITMP. So that means that ISPs can't just do whatever they want. What they do has to fit a decent bill of qualifications or they're going to get reversed.
These qualifications are very similar to the standard that Kevin Martin read to Comcast when the FCC acted against it.
said by Kevin Martin in »hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/a···83A2.pdf :If so, I believe that we should evaluate the practices with heightened scrutiny, with the network operator bearing the burden of demonstrating that the particular practice furthered an important interest, and that it was narrowly tailored to serve that interest. Such an approach would not mean that any action taken against a particular application would automatically be a violation. Rather, it would trigger a more searching review of both the particular concern and whether that network management solution was tailored to resolve the particular harm identified to the network in as narrow a manner as possible. In a manner similar to the way in which restrictions on speech are analyzed, network management solutions would need to further a compelling or at least an important/legitimate interest and would need to be tailored to fit the exact interest. Such practices should not be overly broad in their application so that they become over or under inclusive. For example, if the concern is about stopping certain illegal content, a network provider should not block a particular application to all users if that application transmits both legal and illegal content. Such an analysis would recognize the importance of legitimate network management techniques while giving the Commission the framework to analyze carriers actions on a case-by-case basis. As we move into an era in which network operators are taking particularized actions against individual applications and content, the Commission should evaluate such practices under sufficient scrutiny to ensure that whatever actions the operators are taking are actually furthering a legitimate purpose and are narrowly tailored to serving that legitimate purpose. Finally, I'd like to point out that several ISP's in Canada have Comcast-like problems -- they discriminate against legal peer-to-peer file-sharing whether or not congestion is present, whilst letting other heavy traffic pass unslowed.
This is a consumer win. Consumers have to now bring forward their legitimate complaints, but the policy is now firmly in their direction. -- Robb Topolski -= funchords.com =- District of Columbia -- KJ7RL Test your Broadband connection today! -- »measurementlab.net/ | |  Host: Road Runner PC gaming GAMES PC gaming Tech
| The transparency is of course good, but a lot of the details are just murky enough that they seem to allow for plenty of wiggling. I think you know as well as I do that if there's one thing companies like Bell Canada do, it's regulatory footsie.
I'm not sure how anyone can declare it a win or loss until we see what the CRCT's UBB ruling is, and we see how the CRTC actually enforces these policies on the other end. | | |
|  funchordsHelloPremium,MVM join:2001-03-11 Yarmouth Port, MA kudos:5 | Well that's true -- it's only good if the CRTC follows it.  | |  sbrookPremium,Mod join:2001-12-14 Ottawa kudos:4 Reviews:
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| And if the incumbents follow it. Both parties have the habit of ignoring things. For example, Bell ignored the CRTC request for a tariff for higher speed wholesale service and brought in UBB in their response. The CRTC ignored that Bell ignored their request and approved UBB.
It's not a good track record.
Considering that the whole net neutrality problems (UBB and throttling) are based on the unproven concept that there is sufficient network congestion that Bell needed to throttle, and then that wasn't enough, that they needed UBB, and the CRTC bought their story, it's all based on a stack of lies. If Bell had put the money into infrastructure that they've spent stacking up this house of cards and lawyers to defend it, this discussion wouldn't be needed! | |  Wolfie00My dog is an elitistPremium join:2005-03-12 kudos:4 | said by sbrook:And if the incumbents follow it. Both parties have the habit of ignoring things. For example, Bell ignored the CRTC request for a tariff for higher speed wholesale service and brought in UBB in their response. The CRTC ignored that Bell ignored their request and approved UBB. It's not a good track record. Considering that the whole net neutrality problems (UBB and throttling) are based on the unproven concept that there is sufficient network congestion that Bell needed to throttle, and then that wasn't enough, that they needed UBB, and the CRTC bought their story, it's all based on a stack of lies. If Bell had put the money into infrastructure that they've spent stacking up this house of cards and lawyers to defend it, this discussion wouldn't be needed! Good summary. This can't be said to be a "win for consumers" until -- and if -- we see meaningful enforcement from the CRTC. And the track record on that isn't too good. One gets the impression that the ISP's can now do whatever they like, as long as they disclose what they're doing. To add to the problem, both Bell and Rogers have developed cultures that reflect all the integrity of a nocturnal rodent, along with a complete disregard for the customer. These are companies about which you can safely say, if they can find a way to screw the customer, they will do it -- and if they can do it by engaging in like-minded monopolistic practices, so much the better (for them!). -- "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity" -- a corollary of Murphy's Law "A dog is like a child who never grows old ... always there to love and be loved" -- Aaron Katcher
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