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Re: UM, WAIT, NO! said by funchords:Okay, this AGAIN is not what was advertised, Comcast. "TV Everywhere" was supposed to be available to video subscribers, regardless of who the ISP was. In fact, I should be able to access this from my hotel because I subscribe to Comcast video. What the hell is so "TV Everywhere" now? It's simply "TV at home" and only if you're a cablemodem subscriber. This is so very very wrong. Did you miss this part:
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According to the AP, Comcast is working on a verification system that allows Comcast TV customers to access the service should they say -- use broadband from a competitor, or want to access the service while on the go or at work.
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| In all fairness though, "working on" is not the same as "released", "works", or "is available". Presuming Comcast has webmail and/or a page for maintaining account information online, there is already a mechanism available for ensuring that the customer is a comcast customer, no matter what ISP they use to sign in from.
Currently only allowing Comcast modems to use the service definitely isn't "TV Everywhere". It's "TV at my house where I already have TV at" unless Comcast has recently come out with a cable modem that has a wireless coax input for mobile use. |
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1 edit | said by cdru:In all fairness though, "working on" is not the same as "released", "works", or "is available". Presuming Comcast has webmail and/or a page for maintaining account information online, there is already a mechanism available for ensuring that the customer is a comcast customer, no matter what ISP they use to sign in from. I expect they may be working on a system whereby you can't post a username/PW on some web site and make the service available to anyone. Maybe making sure a username can't be used remotely by more than 1 connection at a time.
There are so many dishonest people out there that will try and take advantage of any hole in their authorization system. That may mean them doing due diligence on making the system as secure as possible.
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| said by Romney2012:I expect they may be working on a system whereby you can't post a username/PW on some web site and make the service available to anyone. Once that system get's implemented, I'm sure many different industries would love to get their hands on it. An authentication mechanism that guarantees you are authorized to access the system from anywhere, but prevents unauthorized users from ever acquiring or using compromised credentials. That's basically the holy grail of authentication.
Maybe making sure a username can't be used remotely by more than 1 connection at a time. That's actually pretty trivial to implement. I've already implemented that for several websites I've worked on and have used that system with banks i've had accounts. |
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said by Romney2012:Did you miss this part: quote:
According to the AP, Comcast is working on a verification system that allows Comcast TV customers to access the service should they say -- use broadband from a competitor, or want to access the service while on the go or at work.
No, they missed the part where they were supposed to trial an authentication wall that allowed a video subscriber to access content "Everywhere." Authentication with a cable modem has absolutely nothing to do with "TV Everywhere," why are they even testing that?
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In short, Comcast is not allowed to keep access to THEIR value-added services confined to THEIR customers? (It's a service offered online with a *gatekeeper*; ESPN360.com operates the same way.)
However, in the case of TV Everywhere, the potential for abuse is rampant (I can think of three ways such a gatekeeper can be spoofed, and entirely with client-side software), and the content providers will NOT permit such a service to go forward unless such spoofing can be detected and defeated as quickly as possible. |
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| said by PGHammer:In short, Comcast is not allowed to keep access to THEIR value-added services confined to THEIR customers? (It's a service offered online with a *gatekeeper*; ESPN360.com operates the same way.) I didn't say that. It was only ever planned that THEIR customers should be able to access the content. While it would be cool if they allowed non-cable customers to subscribe to it, more like an IPTV service, I never presumed that was going to happen. My point is that as it is now, what good is a service that is tied to a Comcast cable modem on a comcast network? If you are close enough to a cable modem and outlet, you are close enough to just run a piece of coax too. Yeah I suppose if you don't have a TV in your [den|bedroom|kitchen] you could take a laptop and "watch TV" on it. But that's not really "TV everywhere". It's "TV in or very near your home".
However, in the case of TV Everywhere, the potential for abuse is rampant (I can think of three ways such a gatekeeper can be spoofed, and entirely with client-side software), and the content providers will NOT permit such a service to go forward unless such spoofing can be detected and defeated as quickly as possible. If they must guarantee that it can't be spoofed, retransmitted, etc then they might as well quit now because any such guarantee is worthless. Never underestimate the capabilities of people with enough determination. |
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