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longstreet join:2004-11-14 Plano, TX 1 edit	hmm Well, in light of this, I suggest those people that take issue with this decision find another carrier.
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iansltx join:2007-02-19 Golden, CO kudos:2	Verizon requires data plans on anything but dumb-phones now. Sprint requires a data plan on thier smartphones. T-Mobile requires a data plan on smartphones.
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longstreet join:2004-11-14 Plano, TX	You can find a smaller carrier that doesn't force the data option, or you can get a different phone.
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Karl Bode News Guy join:2000-03-02 kudos:30	reply to iansltx Yes, so many choices.
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longstreet join:2004-11-14 Plano, TX	As they like to say in some places . . .'the choice is yours'
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Karl Bode News Guy join:2000-03-02 kudos:30	Clearly.
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chasmn83 @comcast.net	reply to longstreet I already switched my phone service to a little juke and purchased an ipod touch for the wifi... I even blocked my data so i dont get mb charges just to look at the verizon online store!!! Never had a problem with verizon service or customer service but not staying when contract over.
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IT Guy Ow, My Balls Premium join:2004-07-29 Las Cruces, NM Reviews: ·Comcast 1 edit	reply to iansltx said by iansltx: T-Mobile requires a data plan on smartphones. That's not exactly true. I had bought a G1 off of eBay and while I was required to use T-mobile's data network to register my device with Google's server, the G1 support tech. told me I was not required to have a data plan, although it was recommended since many of the functions of the phone relied to some extent on having a data plan to update and if an update caused my phone to request that I register the phone to Google's provisioning server, I would have to call into T-Mo's G1 support dept. and have them temporarily add my phone to the data plan again. Regardless, I shelled out the extra cash for the plan, but in retrospect and after several factors including my data usage being very low vs. my Wifi usage and being stuck on EDGE with no idea when 3g will be available in my area, I'm having second thoughts about shelling out that extra money every month that could be better spent on other bills.. Edit: This was back in March, so I know it's quite possible that policy has changed. -- Don't worry, scrote. There are plenty of 'tards out there living really kick-ass lives.
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iansltx join:2007-02-19 Golden, CO kudos:2	reply to longstreet I need a national carrier (school is 900 mi away from home) and want a carrier that has a decent network.
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FBGuy yippee ki yay Premium join:2005-03-19 Reviews: ·Comcast ·T-Mobile US ·AT&T U-Verse	reply to Karl Bode said by Karl Bode: Yes, so many choices. especially with verizon. there is just sooooo much crap to choose from
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broccoli join:2007-11-29 Portland, OR	reply to iansltx said by iansltx: T-Mobile requires a data plan on smartphones. No. I have 3 WinMo phones (only one was bought from T-Mobile, and without a contract) and one S60 phone (bought while vacationing in Asia), and 2 lines with T-Mobile, only one of which has a data plan. If I attempt to use GPRS/EDGE/3G on the line with no data plan, I am prompted to subscribe to a data plan first, but I can still connect to WiFi APs. I have never been forced to get a data plan.
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FBGuy yippee ki yay Premium join:2005-03-19 Reviews: ·Comcast ·T-Mobile US ·AT&T U-Verse	reply to IT Guy i'm in a 3g area and i have a g1. i can't imagine not having the data plan. when I am at home I use the wifi (its just faster), but when i'm out i'm on 3g and it works great. I'm not sure what a heavy user is for mobile data, but I use about 400mb a month on the g1. honestly cannot imagine doing much more than that with the limited battery on this beast.
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en102 Canadian, eh? join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA	reply to iansltx There are a couple of logical pieces that nobody has mentioned. 1. You can use an old 'dumb phone' (or purchase a gophone, etc). And use it 2. When you want to use data, add standard 'data', and use your PDA phone again. There is no 'contract' on data, and you can easily swap out phones.
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iansltx join:2007-02-19 Golden, CO kudos:2	reply to broccoli You're probably grandfathered, though I don't doubt it's the case.
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iansltx join:2007-02-19 Golden, CO kudos:2 Reviews: ·Comcast	reply to en102 If you're on CDMA though, the carrier can disallow an ESN swap unless a plan is changed to that supports data for that particular device. On Sprint that means an Everything or Everything Data family plan. It's not the contract that bothers me, it's switching plans from the one I have now. Yes, I'm on SERO, but I'd be willing to pay full price for a Samsung Moment if I could get it on my plan. By full price I mean $450...I'd still be saving money vs. giving up my plan and paying $180 for the device upfront. I know some people may not share my feelings, but I feel that if someone buys their phone outright (no subsidy) they should be able to use it on whatever plan they want, though the carrier can reserve the right to say "you can't do that" when a user attempts to use a non-smartphone data package to power a smartphone. The thing is, my $30 SERO plan has full data. I know this because it's powering my HTC Touch Pro right now. Just can't get an Anroid phone as far as I can tell...I have to upgrade my plan otherwise and there's no going back. What's really funny is if I switch plans to an Everything plan, at $60 per month after a 15% discount from my school, Sprint is at that point obligated to let me upgrade at new customer price to a new phone each year, rather than every two years. At that point I'll be paying only $20 per month more than I am right now, so they aren't really getting any more profit than my po-dunk SERO plan, especially if I was willing to forego my upgrade credit to keep my plan (I am).
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Telco_Tech join:2009-05-18 Toledo, OH	said by iansltx: The thing is, my $30 SERO plan has full data. I know this because it's powering my HTC Touch Pro right now. Just can't get an Anroid phone as far as I can tell...I have to upgrade my plan otherwise and there's no going back. I feel ya amigo. I recently let go of my SERO plan which was up for renewal because no decent phones are going to be allowed on that plan anymore - the Touch Pro2 was the last, and that phone was a huge letdown in my humble opinion (returned mine within two days). Yes, I'm paying double what I was with my beloved SERO plan, but at least Sprint made the transition easier by instituting the "Any Mobile, Anytime" perk for free, and Sprint Navigation has also been much more useful than I thought it'd be. So, I get those two features plus the ability to run any phone I want now, and I'm STILL saving a fortune compared to the schmucks that throw their money away on AT&T and VZ. Just saying, you can either have SERO and hold on to your aging Touch Pro, or you can pony up the extra cash and have cool new phones - you can't have both. - Tate -- *It's time to let go of TDM people. If it's not IP-based, it's crap!*
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iansltx join:2007-02-19 Golden, CO kudos:2	Unfortunately true. I have SprintNav right now, hence the fac that i'd only be paying $20 more for service.
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IT Guy Ow, My Balls Premium join:2004-07-29 Las Cruces, NM Reviews: ·Comcast	reply to FBGuy said by FBGuy: i'm in a 3g area and i have a g1. i can't imagine not having the data plan. when I am at home I use the wifi (its just faster), but when i'm out i'm on 3g and it works great. I'm not sure what a heavy user is for mobile data, but I use about 400mb a month on the g1. honestly cannot imagine doing much more than that with the limited battery on this beast. Yeah, I gotta say it's been a bit of a let-down, especially considering how much more this tacks on to my bill. EDGE is practically useless. El Paso just had 3g rolled out and I had my fingers crossed that they would extend it up my way, but it hasn't happened yet. What really burns me is that my Gmail app doesn't ever display new messages. I've rooted the phone and I'm using the JesusFreak mod, but I was having that problem before rooting. Also, it never displays images in messages. My buddy has a G1 and has the same problem with his gmail. Pretty lame! -- Don't worry, scrote. There are plenty of 'tards out there living really kick-ass lives.
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FBGuy yippee ki yay Premium join:2005-03-19 1 edit	all i can say is keep hounding customer service.. but of course, be civil. they make notes of complaints and, if they get enough, will fix the problem. excellent pic by the way! great movie!
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compton join:2002-02-08 Brooklyn, NY	reply to iansltx said by iansltx: Sprint requires a data plan on thier smartphones. T-Mobile requires a data plan on smartphones. I am not so sure about that. Maybe on some smart phones. I bought T -Mobile Dash earlier this year and even though it is a smart phone I didn't have to get a data plan. Maybe they changed their policy since then.
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Mandatory Smartphone Data Plans Seem Hypocritical > hmm