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IllIlIlllIll
EliteData
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Lindenhurst, NY

reply to M A R K
Re: WTF!!! Hard Drive LOCKED

said by M A R K See Profile :

Yes they are, im going to just toss them
might i interest in sending you a ups return label ?
id llike to have those drives.
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W5JGV

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Natchitoches, LA
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reply to M A R K
I have had good results with The Ultimate Boot CD, available at »www.ultimatebootcd.com/

I have used it to rescue several drives that others gave up on. It has many utility programs that are handy. I keep a copy of the CD in my computer toolkit. One of the handiest tools is a program to reset the admin password on a locked WIN box.

Note that this is a geek toolkit, and it is not suited for the general computer user.

Have fun!


Jtmo
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Novato, CA
reply to M A R K
Folks, yet another reason to take a drill to your disk drive before throwing in the trash.


Snakeoil
Taxes are Armed robbery.
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reply to Sweet Witch
I had a friend get arrrested for taking things out od a recycle bin.
The store makes money off of the stuff it recycles, hence it was theft.

The thing is trash is trash, but recycled stuff still has some value.

That also depends on the area you are located in.
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fozngoof
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reply to M A R K
Re: WTF!!! Hard Drive LOCKED

It may be a stupid question, but here it goes.

Can you not through a big magnet in there for a bit, degauss it, and reformat?

I'm honestly just throwing something out there. My thinking is that a magnet screws up the hard drive's data, so you just reformat and go on.

Not practical??


Loco
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said by Tuxified See Profile :

Your general attitude about the whole situation kinda sucks.
Nobody here owes you anything.
Isn't that the truth !

Maybe his CAPS ought to be larger.


M A R K
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reply to M A R K
The hard drives are locked to the firmware..
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fozngoof
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reply to M A R K
Won't a magnet screw up the firmware?

Or am I just being naive?


M A R K
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said by fozngoof See Profile :

Won't a magnet screw up the firmware?

Or am I just being naive?
I dont think so, from what i understand is kind of like what is done to an XBOX hard drive
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dvd536
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said by fozngoof See Profile :

Won't a magnet screw up the firmware?
No. firmware is in the chips.
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Dustyn
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Ontario, CAN

 reply to M A R K
Do you really want to waste your time trying to unlock a drive that has been thrown in the trash? I only ask this question because hard drives are sensitive devices that are susceptible to vibration shocks. Even if you did manage to unlock the drives and found the drives to be usable... why would you want to risk putting any data on the drives only to have them fail?


Doctor Olds
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reply to fozngoof
said by fozngoof See Profile :

It may be a stupid question, but here it goes.

Can you not through a big magnet in there for a bit, degauss it, and reformat?

I'm honestly just throwing something out there. My thinking is that a magnet screws up the hard drive's data, so you just reformat and go on.

Not practical??
Try that on a floppy and tell us why it doesn't work. It is the same reason that it does not work on a Hard Drive. All that does is destroy the high and low level formatting so that the drive is no longer functional at all. The BIOS will no longer see the drive after that.
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said by i286 See Profile :

CNC machines - computer numeric control. They are used in manufacturing. Probably the hard drives were locked by the machine manufacturer to prevent access to the proprietary top secret software they use.
What kind of hard drives are those? Western Digital?
we have several CNC machines in our workplace and it's been common practice that the hdd's get locked or destroyed for two reasons...

1. Restrict access to OEM programs / software.
2. Restrict access of proprietary drawings / prints of parts that might still be there.

one time we had to change a hard drive on one machine from 20GB to 40GB and it costs $1500. and it was only a regular IDE drive.


carp

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said by M A R K See Profile :

Ok first off to all the clowns me im jerk and doing illegal shit, please step off.

I did not feel i had to explain in detail the true issue but here we go, i work for a non profit that takes old computers and rebuilds what we can gives them to local churches and schools and other people.

We have people sign a release that says we can do what we want with the stuff and we will report any kiddy porn or other stuff like that.

These were give to us as a swap cycle, we do some free work for donated stuff, they told us they were trash. I see they still can work and were just asking if anyone knew how i could bring them back to life

I dont know why all the arm chair legal eagles and snoops have to come out of the wood work. Me just saying there form the trash and asking for help is not good enough? Sorry..
Really, you said you would have to track down the people that dropped them off at the swap cycle. how are you getting the releases signed and tying those people back to the drives or other equipment.

psx_defector

join:2001-06-09
Allen, TX

reply to Doctor Olds
said by Doctor Olds See Profile :

said by meister_sd See Profile :

Another thought comes to mind, run the serial number of the hard drives through the manufacture and see if they are still under warranty. If they are, you should be able to get them replaced.
Not very likely especially without proof of original purchase. They are at least 5 Years old or older with that size anyway.
I used to make a good living grabbing hard drives from the piles of crap at flea markets, finding in warranty broken ones, and sending them off to get a new one. No one ever bothered to ask for proof of purchase. They knew when it was sold, where it was sold, and if it was in warranty. Pissed me off when i grabbed one in the pile, was in warranty, but was OEM so I had to call them instead of the manufacturer. Nothing better than getting some India goon going "What do you mean, it's a hard drive?"

Last RMA for a drive about a year ago I didn't have to show anything other than the actual physical drive.


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reply to fozngoof
said by fozngoof See Profile :

It may be a stupid question, but here it goes.

Can you not through a big magnet in there for a bit, degauss it, and reformat?

I'm honestly just throwing something out there. My thinking is that a magnet screws up the hard drive's data, so you just reformat and go on.

Not practical??
Assuming that you used a strong enough magnet to demag the user data, you'd find out in short order that there are special patterns written to the media, that are used by the servo system of the drive to keep the head centered over the data track. This data is interspersed with the user data. So, it's going to be well nigh to impossible to just "through" (sic) in a magnet that will take out only the user data and leave the servo data intact. This has nothing to do with high level or low level formatting. It's at a level lower than either of those. The very first thing that's done to an HDD after assembly, is to lay down the servo pattern. This pattern must remain in good condition for the life of the drive. It can never be re-written outside the factory, not so much because it's proprietary, but rather because the servo track writers cost upwards of $50k.

O.O.


M A R K
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said by carp See Profile :

said by M A R K See Profile :

Ok first off to all the clowns me im jerk and doing illegal shit, please step off.

I did not feel i had to explain in detail the true issue but here we go, i work for a non profit that takes old computers and rebuilds what we can gives them to local churches and schools and other people.

We have people sign a release that says we can do what we want with the stuff and we will report any kiddy porn or other stuff like that.

These were give to us as a swap cycle, we do some free work for donated stuff, they told us they were trash. I see they still can work and were just asking if anyone knew how i could bring them back to life

I dont know why all the arm chair legal eagles and snoops have to come out of the wood work. Me just saying there form the trash and asking for help is not good enough? Sorry..
Really, you said you would have to track down the people that dropped them off at the swap cycle. how are you getting the releases signed and tying those people back to the drives or other equipment.
Pure magic and good looks alone brother...
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said by M A R K See Profile :

I got a few 250GIG hard drives from the trash, they are all locked!! In the freaking firmware of the drive its self. NOW I MUST UNLOCK THEM!!

I went online and found a few programs that claim to unlocked them but its $$$$, there must be a better way.

Any ideas? I went nuts, tired to format them with, OSX, Linux, W7, Used all kinds of software. I then used a tool that told me they were locked. Then some crappy program i found told me all about the drive then wanted $150 to unlock it.. come on..

What the hell is on these drives that some one would do this crazy to lock them down like this.
if it's a Western Digital the Master Password is :
is here: »www.llamma.com/xbox/Unlocking%20···rive.htm
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