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jmn1207
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join:2000-07-19
Ashburn, VA

reply to mod_wastrel

Re: "The need for speed is insatiable..."

said by mod_wastrel:

except when it's more the equivalent of driving a Ferrari on the typical 45mph (or slower) roads you typically find yourself on. 50mbps doesn't have a lot of usefulness, insatiable speed-wise, when the sites you visit limit bandwidth to only a fraction of that--either on purpose or due to congestion, unless you're doing a lot of concurrent browsing/downloading (which a family of 10 or 20 might actually be doing ).

Still, that's not a bad price for what you get (if you do actually get that).
Whether or not you happen to find faster "roads" to travel on, it's like getting a new Ferrari with the same gas mileage and price as a Nissan Sentra. There are plenty of Autobahns out there to take advantage of this performance. I had FiOS 50/20 and had absolutely no problems finding ways to max out my connection without using any P2P applications, with the exception of Opera Unite, when I distribute large files to friends and family.

It's really nice to be able to send a 600MB HD video from Virginia to Florida to someone, using just my own browser. If they have a fast enough connection, they are able to get nearly all of my current 25Mbps upload speeds.


mod_wastrel
Gone fishin'

join:2008-03-28

My main "point" is not that such a connection could not be well-used by some (only a few get to hit the Autobahn all that often--none in the US), but that "the need for speed" is *not* "insatiable" (except for a few). On the other hand, the need for value (and economy) is in far more demand... and that demand is seldom being met. If you want 50/20, and you can get it, then more power to you; but way many more people would really like something (much) slower and (much) cheaper. The lower end of broadband is being washed away by rhetoric and marketing due to the "need" for revenue to finance all of those getting-cheaper-all-the-time network upgrades (or was that for some CEO's yacht upgrade?).


iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2

Fiber is expensive. Dialup is cheap. 768k DSL was $20 last I checked.


jarthur31

join:2006-04-14
Carlsbad, NM

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reply to jmn1207
According to the original poster, you are not "normal". *rollseyes*

He probably thinks you are a media pirating whore. *rollseyes again*

I know of many legitimate uses for such an connection and we are in the HD media age where content will be delivered more and more online. MLB, NBA, NHL, and the NFL are some pro sports leagues that stream games live (or achived) in HD for a fee. Let's not forget those video delivery services either: Netflix and Blockbuster.

Personally, I'm more interested in upload than download speeds. I game alot here at home on two XBOXes and my 1 MB connection is not even enough.

But then again, I'm not normal either for consuming the bandwidth that I do.

*end rant*



mod_wastrel
Gone fishin'

join:2008-03-28

reply to iansltx
Fiber isn't expensive; build-outs are expensive. But customers buying something is better than no customers buying nothing. Frankly, it's kind of pitiful that 5/2 for $30 isn't available. I like my 30/5 FiOS, but I know plenty of people (tech people, like me) who neither need nor want to be on the bleeding edge of ISP hype or ISP revenue streams.



mod_wastrel
Gone fishin'

join:2008-03-28

reply to jarthur31

said by jarthur31:

According to the original poster, you are not "normal". *rollseyes*

He probably thinks you are a media pirating whore. *rollseyes again*
(1) Never assume
(2) Read more
(3) Wrong on all counts


joebarnhart
Paxio evangelist

join:2005-12-15
Santa Clara, CA

reply to mod_wastrel

Build the pipe and uses will follow...

The problem is a chicken-and-egg affair. There aren't any compelling applications that need high bandwidth because few HAVE high bandwidth. How about remote secuirty? Remote backup? Video over IP? There are scads of applications that just aren't possible without high sustained bandwidth.

Yea fiber! Yea Minnesota!


iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2

reply to mod_wastrel

Re: "The need for speed is insatiable..."

True. However fiber buildouts are expensive and thus your commercial entities building the stuff out tend to want quick ROI, hence FiOS's perennial price hikes (though the speed gets hiked as well).

iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2
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reply to joebarnhart

Re: Build the pipe and uses will follow...

Heh, I thinkk TDS even beats Paxio on download Mbps per dollar on anything below the package you're on. Which is pretty impressive

I know that with a 20 Mbps connection a lot more of my stuff would be "in the cloud." That's 20 Mbps symmetric...I have 22 down right now. If I could get 50 Mbps symmetric I'd be in heaven. Alas, such a connectionw ould run me $2000 per month here.

MontiFiber

join:2009-11-11

reply to mod_wastrel

Re: "The need for speed is insatiable..."

A few years ago, Fiber buildouts were cost prohibitive.

Now fiber build-outs are cheap or cheaper than copper. The problem is, existing companies already have a significant investment in copper.

Discuss Further: »monticellofiber.net

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