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2 edits | reply to Metatron2008
Re: "The need for speed is insatiable..." And since we are on the subject of needs, when I was kid I surfed BBS's on a 9600 baud modem, which was fine for the time. I checked email, played games, even early MMO types (LORD).
So was that all anybody needs as well since we've decided to be so thick-headed and obtuse?
Your argument doesn't even BEGIN to give answers to what people need when large portions of the country can't even get 5 mbit, or future needs, etc. You may as well be telling us that all we need is 640k of ram.
Here's a clue: Stop talking about websites. Again, the ones based around text and graphics can easily be ran on 256 kbit dsl.
Sites requiring large download capabilities are growing fast and will be upgrading as time moves. Again, your outdated argument is based on ignorant assumptions of what people need and is based at around 2006.
You are using a limitation of speed to say that people who have slow speeds at high prices wouldn't find ways to use high speeds ALL BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY CAN'T USE THOSE OTHER METHODS, while clearly ignoring what countries like Japan does. | |
| All you're saying is that things change over time. Duh. All I've been saying is that there are always going to be those that want the fastest connections possible--some who'll be able to max it out and some who just want it (which is fine)--as well as those who just want a connection and don't really care about how fast it is as long as they can do what they need/want to do. No matter how fast the fastest connections available are, there are always going to be more people who want better value instead of faster speeds, and ISPs are always going to be pushing to get people to spend more on their products (because that's what "business" is all about). Yeah, a lot of people can't get any broadband at all--thanks to ISPs that don't care because the ROI isn't enticing enough. You need to stop assuming things for and about others based on your (limited) personal experience and/or learn that there are many more people out there who *aren't* you and don't want what you want. ISPs *never* have your best interests at heart, only their coffers, and the only thing "insatiable" in this discussion is their desire to stick their hands in your wallet. You need to take you head out of the sand. (BTW, for future reference, your arguments will work better when they don't consist of putting words in other people's mouths. In other words, I really feel no need to defend a position I never took.) | |
 jmn1207Premium
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Ashburn, VA | You originally stated that 50/20 was not useful because of congestion and bandwidth limiting. Having had such a connection, I merely pointed out that this was not the case, and even provided an example off the top of my head.
I think that was the meat of the follow ups, but things got a bit clouded and off the beaten path.
The fact that the US ISPs seem to be competing in services, rather than prices, is something I completely agree with you on. There really aren't too many options for affordable plans that are "good enough" for 95% of the people. It's overpriced and overkill, or back to dialup, it seems. | |
| said by jmn1207:You originally stated that 50/20 was not useful because of congestion and bandwidth limiting. That's not actually what I said. I said it doesn't have a lot of usefulness (as in, not as useful as you'd think by just looking at the number: 50mbps) when (as in, if) there's congestion and bandwidth limiting--which can be rather frequently... or not, depending on where you're going (as in, the sites you visit). Your statement implies that I think that's always the case, when I was only being "conditional". As far as the "family of 10 or 20" goes, I was being more facetious than not:  . And compared to my 30/5 for $55, their price for this offering is pretty good (presuming they deliver speeds approaching what they're selling). My only real contention with them is their statement about the "need for speed" being "insatiable"... that's just marketing hype... get people "hooked"... then jump on the UBB bandwagon which more and more ISPs are clamoring for (which is, yes, a presumption... but a rational and reasonable one given the statements made over the past year or so by all of those "poor" little CEOs in "need" of more money). | |
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