fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
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Re: In the us only tmobile or att works with the sim based iphon Where do you guys come up with this notion that "there is no way in hell" that apple would make a CDMA phone?
Seriously... what is hard to understand? dead or not.., which it's not, CDMA has a VERY large customer base of users and they are in the millions.. millions x that many customers equates to large chunks of revenue.
It's been proven that customers don't always defect a carrier for a phone, and this site also proves that daily.
Further, there is not just 1 carrier that uses CDMA.. Sprint, Verizon, US Cellular.. shall I go on? Even with verizon shifting away, they will still have a few years in CDMA and customers that would be willing to stay for a CDMA phone at this time, which would outlast their upgrade and phase out plans as they migrate, eventually, to another technology. Verizon isn't going to turn on a dime just becuase of the iPhone; an already saturated market. (Many of those new iPhones are upgrades, by the way)
And, its not like it's some HUGE deal to develop a CDMA iPhone.. many phone makers have versions in various technologies.. anyone heard of the Blackberry? .. and it has a FAR larger share than the iPhone does in the market.
So really - ask yourselves, all, why you guys think that iPhone is some exception to the rule when it comes to having a phone that works on more than one single system.. if they invested just a small amount of money, I believe that apple knows they'd make their money back even with the CDMA market in this country.. so why don't you guys?
I know it's fun to sit here on BBR and act like an expert and that you all have the answers to everything, but the point is that regularly, many people here are proven wrong.. time and time again.
For the record, apple has been recruiting CDMA engineers.
... oh yea.. and I could care less if it's 7.5 or 21 mb, does anyone think the current iPhone can really take advantage of those speeds? ... hardly. I have 50 meg in my house and through WiFi it's still slow as a pig... Those nifty fast speeds they keep talking about are going to be more useful for mobile computers and POSSIBLY tether plans than they are the phone itself.. and, too, when they start pushing out more traditional VoIP based calling on their handsets..
oh yea again.. one more last thing.. don't forget that the iPhone was originally targeted to Verizon - a CDMA carrier.. so it's most likely they are pretty far ahead on the "planning" of a CDMA based iPhone. |
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 GbcueAlmost P.E.Premium
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| 1. Yes, please continue listing your list of CDMA carriers.
2. Most are not upgrades, if you read the article earlier in the week, millions were new subscribers to AT&T's horrible network just for the iPhone.
3. Apple has recruited CDMA engineers for their upcoming projects (probably tablet/UMPC related).
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I never said there was no way in hell.. I said it was unlikely.
Sure, all that is really needed is a different radio and a driver change in the iphone for cdma to work..
Now Apple has to have 2 different devices made for them (by foxxcon I believe). The potential result may be an over production in CDMA phones which have limited use outside the US (yes there are millions of CMDA users, but thats the possibility is there).
There is of course the cost of paying someone to maintain 2 different lines of products.
Why, why bother spending all that additional money, when they can wait a few months longer, produce a single device that will work on all current and most likely future wireless network topologies... and not have to deal with a third device (the LTE one assuming they actually do start making gsm and cdma variants) in a year or 2 when everyone is pushing LTE. (Verizon already has 2 small test areas).
No one really knows at the moment, everyone is speculating, except people inside apple.
But from a cost/production standpoint over the long term, does it really make sense to produce 3 different devices, when they could produce a single device that works on all networks, and will most definitely maximize their profits |
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 TweakPremium
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Oklahoma City, OK | reply to fiberguy
I bet its not very hard to do at all . I bet apple even has a working prototype that could quickly be turned into a production model. |
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 jsz0Premium
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Jewett City, CT | reply to jvanbrecht
Apple has about $30B in the bank. Whatever money they spend developing a CDMA iPhone to sell for a couple years is nothing compared to how much profit they will make. It also gets more customers onto the iPhone platform -- in a few years when LTE is widespread they will converge the devices again. |
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Actually, if Apple developed a phone that worked on both GSM and CDMA networks (similar to my Blackberry tour), then they could sell to any carrier they please. There aren't any large technical hurdles, and despite what you may think, CDMA is far from dead. Even as LTE rolls out in the next couple of years CDMA will not go away. CDMA EASILY has another 5 years left before any major carrier pulls the plug. Verizon and Sprint both have tens of millions of subscribers, which is a very large potential market base for apple, and one it can't afford to ignore forever. |
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