Quentin
Friendly Wolf
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AB, Canada
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Re: Post Your Windows 7 WEI Scores
Well, Just got Windows 7 up and running earlier this evening.  Very pleased with how its been running. |
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Phil
Rojo Sol
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join:2001-06-11
Camarillo, CA | reply to howie
5.9. As with your setup, the hard drives are the limiting factor. |
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DKS
Damn Kidney Stones
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Owen Sound, ON
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Turns out my problem is Kaspersky 2010. It barfs WEI.
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ThatsPrettyFunky
join:2001-08-28
Derwood, MD
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said by EJR49  :I can't understand why my graphic score isn't higher. It's a new Asus 5850. Any ideas or is this normal. Thanks. This is a common problem with the 5800 series. It comes and goes, as far as I can tell randomly. It doesn't affect performance though -- every real benchmark still shows scores in the same range whether WEI testing gives it a 6 or 7.4. I'm not sure what causes it, some speculation is the WEI test does something which causes the card's clock speed to be limited. I wouldn't stress over it. |
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Keizer
I'M Your Huckleberry
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join:2003-01-20
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I don't really put much merit in this built in benchmark utility in Win 7. I find it strange that I have a RAID 0 array, yet I don't score any higher than other peoples single drives when Win 7 is testing transfers rates. It's a no brainer that a RAID 0 array is going to have better transfer rates than a single drive. |
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darcilicious
Cyber Librarian
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Forest Grove, OR
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The old XP/MCE 2005 box upgraded to Windows 7; nothing spectacular but I'm plenty happy with it Though I think the Graphics score is surprisingly low -- I'm running Aero fine and watching TV on it just fine  |
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Matt
Take me down to the paradise city
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Jamestown, NC
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said by Keizer :I don't really put much merit in this built in benchmark utility in Win 7. I find it strange that I have a RAID 0 array, yet I don't score any higher than other peoples single drives when Win 7 is testing transfers rates. It's a no brainer that a RAID 0 array is going to have better transfer rates than a single drive. That is actually a common misconception. RAID-0 on the desktop using mechanical drives is pretty worthless unless you need file copy speed. RAID-0 reduces your seek time also, so any gain you have in throughput you lose because of slower access times on the WEI score.
»www.anandtech.com/storage/showdo···101&p=11
said by Anandtech :
If you haven't gotten the hint by now, we'll spell it out for you: there is no place, and no need for a RAID-0 array on a desktop computer. The real world performance increases are negligible at best and the reduction in reliability, thanks to a halving of the mean time between failure, makes RAID-0 far from worth it on the desktop.
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gzt7d8
My Little Weiner Schnitzel
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Swartz Creek, MI
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said by Matt :Damn I need an SSD. I have a 10k RPM Velociraptor and still only score a 5.9. Matt my exact sentiments. I have the same hard drive and thought I was doing myself a favor when I bought my new system. All my other scores are in the mid to upper 7's.
I guess I'll have to save my money and get a SSD, too.
Very disappointing... 
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Keizer
I'M Your Huckleberry
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said by Matt unless you need file copy speed.
[/BQUOTE :Exactly! By the way, I notice your Velociraptor suffers the same fate with Win 7's WEI score. |
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Mashiki
Balking The Enemy's Plans
join:2002-02-04
Woodstock, ON
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Just a small upgrade I tossed together for myself. This'll hold me over for another 6-7mo or so. So far I'm happy with it. |
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clones
join:2005-04-18
Ankeny, IA
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Nothing special, but Windows 7 runs great on it.
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Keizer
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join:2003-01-20 | reply to howie
I read on another forum that 5.9 is Windows 7 WEI peak for non-SSD drives. That makes sense after seeing some of these scores, but I wonder if it's actually true? |
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Mashiki
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Woodstock, ON
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| Seems to be kinda messy to me honestly. SSD drives are on the up and up, but they're not really ready in a lot of cases for mainstream consumer use. They're at least 2 years off on that still, so if that's how they're measuring it; they're loading the wmi test to one side. |
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motd2k
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This is a i7 920 / 1333 Mhz memory / Crucial 256GB SSD / NVIDIA 295 all at stock speeds. |
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Somnambul33t
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said by spatula_city :Man, I thought I built a top of the line system. CPU: i7 920 2.66Ghz (not overclocked - Yet!) Motherboard: ASUS P6T6 WS Workstation Memory: OCZ Platinum 1600Mhz DDR3 6GB Graphics: 2x MSI GTX260 OC in SLI Storage: 1x WD Velociraptor 10000RPM 300GB, 1x 2TB Seagate 5900RPM Just need to find a pair of 15,0000 RPM SAS drives in raid 0 for less than an arm and a leg. good SSD >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> raid 0 mechanical!
friend just got an SSD. we've both been salivating over them since the Intels 1st came out. i think he got a 120gb vertex. i'm waiting for prices to drop. i need 200+ GB for $200. i couldnt really use a smaller drive. i have 100GB of games installed and like over 60GB for my OS partition.
my score is also 5.9, limited by my previously awesomely fast Hitachi 750GB 32MB drive.
Q6700@3.6ghz
8GB RAM
HD5870
W7 Pro 64
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Keizer
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said by motd2k :This is a i7 920 / 1333 Mhz memory / Crucial 256GB SSD / NVIDIA 295 all at stock speeds. Nice! |
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drew
Reformation
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join:2002-07-10
Port Orchard, WA
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Boy am I glad you posted that.
I've been contemplating a RAID-0 for some time....
I should just invest in a SSD. |
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Keizer
I'M Your Huckleberry
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| said by drew :Boy am I glad you posted that. I've been contemplating a RAID-0 for some time.... I should just invest in a SSD. Although what Matt said may be true, don't base your RAID 0 decision on just that information. What are you using your PC for? That is what you should base your decision on weather to run a RAID 0 array or not.
Don't let Win 7's low WEI scores on RAID 0 arrays scare you away. Like I already mentioned, it doesn't matter how well your drive performs, if it's not an SSD, your WEI score is not going to be any better than 5.9.......that's pretty pathetic of WIN 7 IMO. Run a true disk performance bench mark tool if you want to measure performance.
As far as real world results, RAID 0 allows for faster map loading in games. Awhile back I built my son and I two identical systems. Mine had RAID 0, his a single drive. When we loaded identical maps iin games, mine loaded much faster. Large software installs are faster. Moving huge files are faster, etc.
You really need to try it out on your paticular system to see if you see/feel any performance gains. It also depends on the RAID controller you use. I have seen benchmarks of modern Velociraptors in RAID 0, and my two WD blacks in RAID 0 bench mark better.
As far as losing data if one of your drives fails......that's true. But, I use True Image to back up my array. Yesterday I flashed my bios. Just for the heck of it, I deleted my RAID 0 array, and then re-created it. I then restored my latest image. Worked perfect. If I ever had a disk failure, I would simply replace the disk, rebuild the array, and restore my image........done.
If you are just mulling around your desktop, surfing and emailing people, then stay away from RAID. You won't notice anything.
As far as Win 7's WEI scores, I find the whole thing kinda lame. Why would your final score be the lowest number in the bunch? Why doesn't it take an average of all the scores? It's a pretend benchmark utility that doesn't hold any merit with me. I suggest trying separate benchmark tools for your various pieces of hardware. Tools that are highly regarded in the PC enthusiast community. |
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drew
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| I'm not trusting just what Matt is saying (though he's a pretty smart cookie) but more importantly, what AT is showing on their site.
It makes sense. I think there might be a higher rate of map loading (though the only game I really play is WoW) it's probably less of a perf. boost from putting it on a SSD. Now maybe if I put two SSDs into a RAID-0 something small would be there, but nahhhhhhhhhh
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Matt
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said by drew :Boy am I glad you posted that. I've been contemplating a RAID-0 for some time.... I should just invest in a SSD. I used to run RAID-0, all the way up to a 4-disk array. I've noticed significantly better performance from my single Velociraptor, especially with WoW map loading.
Keizer is right that certain things will be faster but I don't agree that game map loads will be as Anand disproved this in another RAID article and my own results bear this out. I noticed that if I copied large files around or was decompressing a large archive, RAID-0 was great. As you can see in the image above however, no significant difference and in this benchmark, RAID-0 was usually slower than a single drive. You could probably eek out better performance if you invest in a real PCI-E RAID controller with 15k SAS drives and on-controller cache though. But at that point the fastest SSD out will be cheaper and offer better performance.
Regardless, 100MB/sec for my Velociraptor plus ultra-low seek times results in a much better overall experience in Windows. Desktop usage is all about response time, not pure transfer rate. That's why SSD are great, as their access times are effectively 0ms and they have ridiculously high transfer rates. |
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