Topic 'Re: Why blame Verizon?' in forum '' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23241882 en Thu, 09 Feb 2012 19:46:13 EDT Thu, 09 Feb 2012 19:46:13 EDT Re: Why blame Verizon? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23252341
Only when contributions are limited to those from individual voters will voters finally get some representation. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23252341 Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:02:24 EDT Re: Why blame Verizon? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23247098 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23247098 Tue, 27 Oct 2009 05:36:46 EDT Re: Why blame Verizon? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23246871 said by lesopp:

said by iansltx:

a phone company is expected to push their infrastructure out to the ends of the earth and be affordable for anyone who wants phone service.
That is why they have the USF.
And the USF doesn't actually require 100% universal service/coverage in any area, and its funds can't be used for anything except POTS

»edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr_2008/···.101.htm]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23246871 Tue, 27 Oct 2009 02:02:15 EDT Re: Why blame Verizon? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23246853 said by ropeguru:

They are just as guilty as the politicians that took the money and Fairpoint knowing that ultimately they could not handle the extra load.
Is Fairpoint a sentient being?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23246853 Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:56:28 EDT Re: Why blame Verizon? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23246360 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23246360 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:19:18 EDT Re: Why blame Verizon? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23246186
If not for Verizon`s lobbying dollars, why else would regulators have approved of the sale?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23246186 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:45:40 EDT Re: Why blame Verizon? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23245516 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23245516 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:41:46 EDT Re: Why blame Verizon? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23244187 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23244187 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:15:32 EDT Re: Why blame Verizon? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23244368 said by iansltx:

a phone company is expected to push their infrastructure out to the ends of the earth and be affordable for anyone who wants phone service.
That is why they have the USF.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23244368 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:49:11 EDT Re: Why blame Verizon? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23244182
Any benefit (including campaign contribution) given in exchange for a favor is a bribe. It doesn't matter if it goes in their pocket They should all go to prison.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23244182 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:12:07 EDT Re: Why blame Verizon? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23243867 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23243867 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:15:26 EDT Re: Why blame Verizon? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23243850 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23243850 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:11:28 EDT Re: Why blame Verizon? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23243717 said by Joe05 :

Yes, I agree but, Fairpoint knew this would happen. It's all part of their master plan. All they have to do is go through bankruptcy and they come out the other end smelling like a Rose.
Just from what I am picking up on it doesn't sound like coming out with less debt increase the competency of management.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23243717 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:47:28 EDT Re: Why blame Verizon? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23243715 said by openbox9:

I have a phone on my desk fed by Verizon, but I'm not even remotely employed by them. Don't blame me if you have no proof for your allegation.
What more proof do you want put in from of you so you can refuse to accept?? Greasing the politicians palms with campaign money to get what they want is nothing more than paying them off.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23243715 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:46:09 EDT Re: Why blame Verizon? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23243116 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23243116 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:01:30 EDT Re: Why blame Verizon? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23243013 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23243013 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:43:52 EDT Re: Why blame Verizon? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23242978 said by openbox9:

So you're implying lobbying dollars were a bribe to gain regulatory approval for this sale? Quite the accusation.
Sounds like you need to get back to your regular work at your Verizon desk]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23242978 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:39:25 EDT Re: Why blame Verizon? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23242930
I believe the name of one of the fiber companies in FairPoint's NE area is Burlington Telecom. They offer up to 8 Mbps symmetric fiber, triple play options, etc. They seem to be doing just fine. Of course they don't have a team of highly paid weavers crafing the exec's golden parachute...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23242930 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:30:24 EDT Re: Why blame Verizon? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23242754 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23242754 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:54:41 EDT Re: Why blame Verizon? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23242751 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23242751 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:53:40 EDT Re: Why blame Verizon? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23242550 said by openbox9:

What money did Verizon give to politicians to make this deal happen? Blame the regulators and the legislatures fro enticing Verizon to offload the assets, but don't blame Verizon for exploiting the system to their benefit.
Maybe you should look at this website that gives you some details on how much money the telcos pump into out political economy.

»projects.publicintegrity.org/tel···iys.aspx

While it may not be specifically for this particular deal this money is pumped in to woo politicians into anything the telcos want.

While the data is a little old, it has only gone up and not down.

Here is a web page for just Verizon expenditures through 2006.

»projects.publicintegrity.org/tel···=M000055]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23242550 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:15:26 EDT Re: Why blame Verizon? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23242493 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23242493 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:07:01 EDT Re: Why blame Verizon? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23242460 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23242460 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:01:48 EDT Re: Why blame Verizon? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23242423
1. Verizon
2. Regulators
3. Legislators/IRS for allowing the RMT loophole ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23242423 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:55:30 EDT Re: Why blame Verizon? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23241892 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Why-blame-Verizon-23241892 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 08:53:35 EDT Why blame Verizon? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Why-blame-Verizon-23241882 --
"If it can't be done with brains, it can't be done with hours" - Clarence "Kelly" Johnson]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Why-blame-Verizon-23241882 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 08:50:04 EDT