cbrigante2
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| reply to sapo
Re: Forza 3?
To answer sapo  , what would make the game so much more.
Well, for starters, it would be nice if they bumped the online lobby limit to 12 to get those 4 extra racers in (I'll admit to being a little selfish about this one since..yes I do have over 12 friends that have this game and we normally run a private lobby or two to make up for the 8 player limit).
On to the next ones. I can admit to being a bit of a Forza fanboy. That being said, I have to believe that Turn 10 must have had a sinking feeling the minute they saw or played the in car view of a game like NFS Shift. This was a highly touted feature in 3, and all the excitement and momentum this game had because of it was lost once I played the demo after playing Shift. Sure, Shift doesn't come close to Forza on most things, but it leapfrogs Forza in two of them...in car...and audio. One could argue that the track graphics are better as well, but I'll be fair and only compare the new ones to it and they come up pretty even.
The one other great missing feature IMO is day/night progression in race. If you are going to have a strong ALMS series tie in with most of the field in the game, and throw in Le Mans circuit...where the 24 hour race was popularized....you almost have to put this in. Imagine an actual 24 hour race at Le Mans in this game with day/night? How about a 12 hours at Sebring?
After that, sure you could throw weather in as a feature that would be nice to have...but not deal breaker in my book. I'm hoping that they come out with Mosport as a DLC track as well..just to help complete the ALMS feel to it. |
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cbrigante2
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| reply to sapo
said by sapo :If you get the 370Z you can do an engine swap to the current GTR engine. I have been considering getting one as my friend has had great results with it. My Audi was just for fun and I'm looking at getting a more serious race vehicle. I finally broke the crowbar out on my virtual Forza wallet and bought some cars. I picked up a Foxbody Mustang and upgraded it to the top of B class for now. My friends ran a 2 lap Fuji drift event (going for the 100,000 drift point achievement) and while I managed about 55k points...it was not easy in that car!
I also picked up a 370z and tuned it to B class as well. Better for drifting, but almost too much in control. Finally, I picked up a favorite from F2..the '82 911 Turbo. |
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jmn1207
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Reston, VA
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| reply to chadrob30
My Fanatec wheel is supposed to arrive Nov. 4th. I've read so many good things about this wheel, I can hardly stand the wait.
I love driving, but I'm not much of a racing fan, against AI or real people. That said, I am very happy that all of the cars and tracks are available for me to enjoy in the hot laps. I have messed around in the season mode, but I'm only doing it as a means to an end. I'll eventually want to make some customizations to some of the cheaper, everyday driver cars. I doubt I would want to do anything to the more expensive exotics. I'm not into "Hello Kitty" Murcielagos. 
I'm gonna spend a good deal of time with Forza 3 this weekend, starting in a few hours. I'll have to settle for the Xbox wireless wheel for the time being, but after putting in several hundred hours with the Logitech G25 in other games, it's just not as fun. It's still better than using the controller, at least for me. At first I was going to just use my controller until my Fanatec wheel arrived, but I broke down and setup the MS wheel last night. I just can't go back to using a controller.
I love the varied track selections in this version. They have a good mix of tracks that are perfect for low hp compacts and cars like the VW GTI or Ford Focus. I had a blast on the Sedona club track using slower cars, where the 400+ hp monsters just don't match up that well in stock format, in the same manner that Nürburgring is not the best track for an unmodified Honda Fit or the Datsun 510. (still fun in sections, but there are better tracks for these cars)
I might have to consider skipping the family visit in Florida for Thanksgiving this year, just to be able to have 5 free days of nothing to do but play. |
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cbrigante2
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| Nice. Yeah I have the MS Wireless Wheel, but I never took to it with Forza 2. Forza 3's physics tend to be a lot more "grip" than F2's were, so using the controller doesn't seem to be holding me back as much.
That Fanatec wheel looks like a great investment for this. Did you go with the standard pedals or the Club Sport? |
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jmn1207
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4 edits | said by cbrigante2 :That Fanatec wheel looks like a great investment for this. Did you go with the standard pedals or the Club Sport? I originally bought the Pure edition wheel almost a year ago! It's being shipped without any pedals, but it does include an adapter that will allow me to use my Logitech G25 pedals. However, Fanatec was going to include a copy of the Forza 3 game, but they did not get any copies at the time they were ready to start shipping the wheels out, so they have offered me a $50 store credit, which I will use to get the standard pedals. I'm used to the G25 pedals, so I'm not as impatient about the new ones getting here right away.
I tried using the shifter and clutch a few times with the G25, and I've been driving a manual since I learned how to drive in a 78' Datsun 510 hatchback (giving away my 40+ age  ) , but I don't enjoy it as much in games. The feel is missing, and it's just not the same for me. I just use the paddle shifters, and although the shifter and clutch seems much better with Forza 3 and the Fanatec, it's probably not something I would regularly use.
Initially I was a bit hesitant to drop so much money (it's even more expensive now) on an unproven wheel being made in Germany, but most people seem thrilled with the product. Gonna be tough playing the game without the new wheel, but I will appreciate it more when it finally arrives. The MS wheel that I have is fairly new, as I wore out my original one. It's a bit clunky and makes odd sounds now and again, and the occasional downshifting from 3rd to 1st instead of 2nd coming into a corner is a bit annoying, but for the most part the wheel is doable.
This game is very good with the controller, but it's not as smooth as when using a wheel, and part of my fun is watching the replay after taking a few laps. In the replays it's very noticeable between using the controller and using a wheel, although after using the controller for some time, I was getting smoother turns with fewer quick corrections on the straights, but I switched to the wheel before I got very proficient with the controller.
Edit: I have to say that the replays are MUCH better in this version of Forza. Not as good as the Gran Turismo series, but greatly improved over Forza 2. The cars now seem to have a more natural body roll as compared to the seemingly flat action of the cars in the previous iteration. And there are fewer zoomed-in shots of my wheel as I maneuver into a tight hairpin or tricky chicane.  |
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sapo
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Sacramento, CA | Holy sh.... that is a nice wheel. I'm really tempted to get it but for the sake of myself I think I should save that money  .
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cbrigante2
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| Yeah I've been following the user reviews on the wheel for a few months now. I want one, but will not get it until I use the MS wheel that collects dust right now!
You can see me twitching away on this replay from last night (granted, that Veyron is a handful to begin with) from using the controller.
»www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvo6wY5Ul-8 |
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sapo
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Sacramento, CA | Have you tried the MS wheel in Forza 3 yet? I was considering buying one today or tomorrow.
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BonezX
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Canada | i don't like the MS wheel, and the fanatec is TOO damn expensive(500 wheel, and there's no guarantee that you'll get one from the limited run) would love some G25 lovin on the 360 though. |
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cbrigante2
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North Aurora, IL
| reply to sapo
said by sapo :Have you tried the MS wheel in Forza 3 yet? I was considering buying one today or tomorrow. I haven't tried it with F3 yet, but will by tomorrow. I have a couple of friends who say it works well with it. |
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maximusqb
join:2005-02-21 | reply to chadrob30
I picked up Forza 3 today and played a bit. Online play is fun. I think I am gonna get a wheel though. |
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Tedowski
join:2004-03-27
Beverly, MA
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| reply to chadrob30
I love this game! I'm addicted. I got a free copy of it and I can't stop playing. The graphics and sound are incredible.
I just finished season 7 in season play and now i'm going to try and slowly finish off the event list.
Tip for anyone who just picked up this game: To get 2 quick achievements (Demon and Interior) take the Bugatti Veyron to the 1 mile drag at Sedona. Leave the car stock and select cockpit view from the HUD before the race. 25.3 seconds @ 210 MPH. DONE! |
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ptrowski
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clubs: | Now you guys are making me think I need to go get it.  |
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cbrigante2
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North Aurora, IL
| If you're into cars, it is a great game.
I just finished level 50 the other day and bought the first round of DLC. I've managed to pick up the Ferrari 458, Lambo SV, Porsche, Nissan GT-R and Audi from the pack so far. I love all the new cars.
Supposedly they are working on a title update for before Christmas release to address some game bugs (I have noticed a sound bug that has become more annoying the more I've played it). |
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Tedowski
join:2004-03-27
Beverly, MA
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| said by cbrigante2 :Supposedly they are working on a title update for before Christmas release to address some game bugs (I have noticed a sound bug that has become more annoying the more I've played it). Would that be the throttle "hanging" sound? |
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cbrigante2
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North Aurora, IL | Yep. I didn't notice it at first, but now I hear it all the time. Not sure if it is related to the car being used or not, but the Ferrari FXX does it almost every race. |
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BonezX
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| said by cbrigante2 :Yep. I didn't notice it at first, but now I hear it all the time. Not sure if it is related to the car being used or not, but the Ferrari FXX does it almost every race. i got one that beats that, it's a full out audio hang, and it's loud as hell.
balance issues are more a priority to me then anything else, 400hp awd 350z shouldn't be running in the same class as 250hp rwd mazdas and 300hp awd subaru and skylines. |
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cbrigante2
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North Aurora, IL | Yeah I've caught that audio hang as well...but only once. I think the Christmas update is set to address that one first.
Yeah the AWD balance has always been a problem in Forza games, but it is easy enough to fix with locked rooms. |
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BonezX
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| said by cbrigante2 :Yeah I've caught that audio hang as well...but only once. I think the Christmas update is set to address that one first. Yeah the AWD balance has always been a problem in Forza games, but it is easy enough to fix with locked rooms. awd wasn't a problem as much in F2, it was front wheel drive cars in general in that one, they cornered very unlike fwd, now that they under-steer properly, awd seems to have taken over.
but it's not all the awd cars either, it's specific ones, being the audi S5/4, and don't get me started on the awd land missiles(charger with 600hp and awd vs 200hp cars, wtf) |
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cbrigante2
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| It might not have been as much of a problem, but the awd cars were still "cheatwagons" in F2 as well (had to borrow a term that the group I race with started).
The biggest offender I've noticed outside of the Audi sponsor darlings is the '08 Viper. With the AWD swap on that one, it is a little out of line with reality from what I can tell.
In other Forza news, I've been having a friendly competition with a few of my friends on the Hotlap leaderboards. I've managed to get to around #118 on the overall leaderboard. Still trying to catch my friend who made the top 80.
Also, Turn 10 announced a January DLC pack as well, so hopefully they keep coming (I'll buy them because I want to keep T10 interested in long standing support). |
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