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Smith6612
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Re: Trick or Treat, Windows 7 upgrade cripples Vista machines

A clean install will never fail. Upgrades are always more risky for things like this happening. Not to mention, a clean install does make people who back up their data think twice before they clutter things up on their disk again and don't use them
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said by Smith6612:

A clean install will never fail. ...
Never? As in never, ever, it won't happen in human history? Or "never" as in it's very unlikely? "Never" can be a pretty extreme word, though it isn't always used quite that way...
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said by Smith6612:

A clean install will never fail. Upgrades are always more risky for things like this happening. Not to mention, a clean install does make people who back up their data think twice before they clutter things up on their disk again and don't use them
That's assuming that the new Windows clean install is compatible with the motherboard, RAM, chip-set, BIOS, video card, CPU and other factors that will allow the best performance of the OS.

A clean install can fail because their are many variables involved. A person may try to install Windows 7 on a machine that was built ten years ago. Do you think that it will install or work
correctly if the minimum requirements are not met ?

My humble opinion is Windows 7 is just Vista with a new and improved look with less bloat to make it run faster. It won't be long before the security bulletins start happening each month and people realize that Microsoft has once again sold a substandard operating system, that is target number 1 by hackers all over the globe.

Anyone for Fedora Redhat?

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said by antiphishing:

said by Smith6612:

A clean install will never fail. Upgrades are always more risky for things like this happening. Not to mention, a clean install does make people who back up their data think twice before they clutter things up on their disk again and don't use them
My humble opinion is Windows 7 is just Vista with a new and improved look with less bloat to make it run faster. It won't be long before the security bulletins start happening each month and people realize that Microsoft has once again sold a substandard operating system, that is target number 1 by hackers all over the globe.

Anyone for Fedora Redhat?

My 6 Enterprise Redhat machines that I pay $400 for a year get more critical security patches than any Windows box. When our corporation was infiltrated 4 years ago it was through an exploit in a Redhat Enterprise 3 box...so

If you actually knew anything about 7/Vista's architecture you would know that it's vastly superior to XP in almost every way. Christ...people running XP are still all running as admin.

Are we seriously going to get into this? You propose Fedora as a consumer OS?

Keep holding your breath.

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The bulletins are already showing that 7 has the same old Windows Security issues, that have not been fixed in past OS's. MS needs to rewrite the whole OS from the ground up, instead of slapping a new makeup scheme on it.



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I upgraded my machine a couple of days ago...no problems what-so-ever. All I did was follow the directions to a-tee...and read some FAQs before I started.

I should add that I forgot to turn Avast off while installing...it caused no problems though.

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The bulletins are already showing that 7 has the same old Windows Security issues, that have not been fixed in past OS's. MS needs to rewrite the whole OS from the ground up, instead of slapping a new makeup scheme on it.
Perhaps you could explain which fundamental OS features, as distinct from user habits, are responsible for this insecurity and how they would be redesigned without alienating the customer base? Please explain the existing SRM since most of our readers here do not understand it. Make specific reference to the refusal of many app developers to write code that does not need elevated privilege, and why they'd ever do anything different.

(Dave's lemma: anyone who says "rewrite from the ground up" does not understand programming-in-the-large).



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If you actually knew anything about 7/Vista's architecture you would know that it's vastly superior to XP in almost every way. Christ...people running XP are still all running as admin.

Are we seriously going to get into this? You propose Fedora as a consumer OS?

Keep holding your breath.

I agree with you one hundred percent that the Windows NT kernel architecture is a million times better then what was found in Windows 3.1., 95, 98SE, and ME when it comes to stability and
reliability.

...and yes I would love to see the many variation of Linux , including Red Hat Fedora on consumer computers
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