Henry8IM
@teksavvy.com
| Multiple MagicJacks on one PC
Hi everyone. After (quite possibly) months of messing around with my two MJ's trying to get it to work on one computer... I came across a site the other day recently, from a company that claims to have an E-Book addressing the problem - »www.conversetech.ca
I did phone them at their number, and suprisingly enough, a guy named Chris was happy to answer my questions (although not providing answers I guess they already wrote in their book). I did find it a little surprising that they are MagicJack users themselves and willing to answer the phone; when MagicJack themselves have a hard time getting their act together in that department.
Anyhow, I ordered it, got it (I apparently was one of their first few customers for their info), and am in the process of making it all work. I shall let everyone know...
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amigo_boy
join:2005-07-22
Tempe, AZ
 ·Cox HSI
 ·magicjack.com
| $99 (!!!) for an e-book?
Just run VirtualBox or VMWare Server on your Windows box, running Windows inside the virtual machine, and using an add-on USB card dedicated to the virtual machine.
IMO, if someone spends $99 they should post the information here or on magicjacksupport.com. There have been so many people helping other MJ users for free, sharing information (like how to change proxies), it's ridiculous that anyone would believe they can sell info. Especially at that price.
It's probably $99 (instead of $10) because they know it's either 1) a scam, or 2) the info will be shared. They're just trying to make as much as they can while they can.
Mark |
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jhford
join:2009-10-28
Malibu, CA | What is an add-on USB card (example link?) and how would I use it to install 2 MJ's on one TC?
Thanks |
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amigo_boy
join:2005-07-22
Tempe, AZ
·Cox HSI
·magicjack.com
| said by jhford  :What is an add-on USB card (example link?) and how would I use it to install 2 MJ's on one TC? What I was referring to is a PCI USB expansion card (about $10-$20). Or, a PMCIA adapter card.
I haven't done it myself, but I've read that you can use a virtual machine to run a second (or more) MJ. But, the trick is that each virtual machine needs its own USB controller. Thus the requirement for individual add-on controllers.
I don't know if that last part is true. Using the free VMware Server, I can take individual USB devices from the Windows "host" to the "guest" operating system. Maybe when more than one guest is present, it requires dedicated USB buses. (Anyway, just going by what I read in the past.).
Regarding thin clients, they probably don't have the horsepower to run "guest" machines within a "host" OS.
We should take up a collection to buy this book and see what's in it. I'm in for $10.
Mark |
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pagemen
join:2008-12-28
planet earth
| What is "its own USB controller"? dedicated USB root hub? I don't think there is such a limitation, at least not in VMWare. Running multi virtual machines and let each one takes control of one MJ jack -- I can't see anything harder than that.
btw, the domain was registered like 2 days ago and the price was $150 at first. Will anyone -- even the OP -- in his right mind buy such an ebook at that price? |
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amigo_boy
join:2005-07-22
Tempe, AZ
·Cox HSI
·magicjack.com
| said by pagemen :What is "its own USB controller"? dedicated USB root hub? Yes. That's what I read a few months ago. But, I agree with you that I haven't noticed such a requirement when running just one virtual machine, connecting one USB flash device mounted on one USB root hub.
I don't know if it's different with the MJ device, or with multiple virtual machines sharing one root hub. Just relaying what I read, and there might be that requirement for one root hub per virtual machine.
Mark |
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pagemen
join:2008-12-28
planet earth
| reply to Henry8IM
Just tried
Win7+VMWare workstation 6.5.3
And I have no problem connecting 2 USB devices on same usb root hub(checked with usbview.exe) to 2 virtual machines(one Debian and one Windows xp). I don't have multi MJs but they should work out the same.
VMWare does have the limitation of allowing only one virtual USB hub/2 devices per virtual machine, not sure if your confusion comes from here. |
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amigo_boy
join:2005-07-22
Tempe, AZ
·Cox HSI
·magicjack.com
| said by pagemen :VMWare does have the limitation of allowing only one virtual USB hub/2 devices per virtual machine, not sure if your confusion comes from here. Maybe so. Thanks. Maybe the post I read a few months ago only meant you'd need add-on USB hubs/controllers if you had more than 2-3 virtual machines.
I still think we ought to get 10-20 of us to put up $5-$10 and buy that ebook and find out what it's about. Maybe they've found a way to rename registry entries and create a unique namespace for each instance of MJ. (I doubt it. But, it would be worth a few dollars to find out.).
Mark |
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pagemen
join:2008-12-28
planet earth
| Not necessary...from the FAQ
»www.conversetech.ca/faq.htm#Does···machines
quote:
Does this involve virtual machines?
To a certain extent, yes. However our E-Book explains additional critical steps to allow multiple MagicJacks to work properly.
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amigo_boy
join:2005-07-22
Tempe, AZ
·Cox HSI
·magicjack.com
| said by pagemen :Not necessary...from the FAQ » www.conversetech.ca/faq.htm#Does···machines quote:
Does this involve virtual machines?
To a certain extent, yes. However our E-Book explains additional critical steps to allow multiple MagicJacks to work properly.
In that case, it's a scam. The web page said something about how they would show you how to do it without additional expense of hardware and software. That means they're encouraging violating your Windows license (installing it multiple times) or using an illicit copy like micro_XP.
I can't verify what they said because their web site's unavailable at the moment. But, if the wording above is correct, I think anyone could buy the book and immediately dispute the charge with their CC company that it didn't deliver what's advertised.
Mark |
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grover92000
join:2004-03-10
| reply to Henry8IM
This is a scam. Here is the whois on the domain:
quote:
[Querying whois.cira.ca]
[whois.cira.ca]
Domain name: conversetech.ca
Domain status: EXIST
Approval date: 2009/10/26
Renewal date: 2010/10/26
Updated date: 2009/10/26
Registrar:
Name: Go Daddy Domains Canada, Inc
Number: 2316042
Name servers:
ns39.domaincontrol.com
ns40.domaincontrol.com
% WHOIS look-up made at 2009-10-31 02:10:17 (GMT)
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% Use of CIRA's WHOIS service is governed by the Terms of Use in its Legal
% Notice, available at »www.cira.ca/legal-notice/?lang=en
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% (c) 2007 Canadian Internet Registration Authority, (»www.cira.ca/)
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