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pandora
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 79.9% APR interest credit cards

Loan sharking used to be illegal. It appears now banks have taken over this line of business. How the heck can our government permit legal 79.9% interest rates. There are also about $200 in fees (if I've read the article correctly) necessary to open the account. A $7 per month account servicing fee? $48 a year annual fee? $95 program fee? Who is this desperate for a credit card? Who would be stupid enough to open an account with terms like this?

»www.walletpop.com/blog/2009/10/1···nterest/

Such a deal! New credit card offers a mere 79.9% interest

It's like some credit card companies want to be ridiculed. What else can you say about a company offering a credit card with a 79.9% APR?

At first, I thought it was a joke or a misprint. But then I saw it confirmed in no less a reputable source than American Banking News, and realized that--Oh. My. God. It's true. Yes, First Premier Bank is offering a "Premier Card" credit card with a 79.9% APR.

Yes, 79.9%.

San Diego's NBC affiliate broke the story when alerted by a viewer Gordon Hageman, who told reporter Bob Hansen, "I think they're trying to take advantage of me." Hageman's retort: "Ya think?"

The comments among WalletPop writers were along the same lines. WalletPop regular Zac Bissonnette offered some words that my editors would censor if I repeated them here, but he did see one bright side: "79.9% is one HELL of an incentive to pay your balance in full each month."And Josh Smith, also a regular presence on WalletPop, chimed in: "You would be better off paying for stuff with buttons, shiny rocks and berries than using a First Premier Card."

Josh added that he received a pre-approved offer from First Premier in the mail, and that it's not just the interest rate that's insidious; the fees aren't so hot either.

The fees include:
$29 Account Setup Fee
$95 Program Fee
$48 Annual Fee
$7 Monthly Servicing Fee ($84 a year)
$20 Additional Card Fee
Smith adds, "With the card they sent me, the limit was $250, so by opening the card, I would have already been left with $50 in credit. What the hell can you buy for $50 that you couldn't pay cash for?"

And if you're wondering if this is legal, yep, it sure is. As American Banking News says, "Credit card interest rates are regulated on a state-by-state basis, and South Dakota removed the ceiling on the interest rates that credit card companies can charge in hopes of attracting national banks to the state."

All I can say is that if you've received an offer for this card from First Premier, rip it up. Please rip up this rip-off.
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Snakeoil
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lol.. Is this a left over from April 1st? Sure sounds like it...

Send the link to Clark Howard.. I'd love to hear him scream over this.. lol
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Image of 79% credit card offer taken from a website
I went to the bank site linked in the story. All the fees listed are there, except the interest rate. For some reason the bank claims the annual interest rate is 9.9%.

The credit card fees are here - »https://www.firstpremierbankgold.com/car···606DBNHF

Account Set-up Fee: $29.00 (one-time fee)
Program Fee: $95.00 (one-time fee)
Annual Fee: $48.00
Monthly Servicing Fee: $84.00 Annually1
Additional Card Fee: $20.00 Annually per card, (if applicable)
Late Payment Fee: $29.00
Over Limit Fee: $29.00

Available Credit and Cash Advance Limitations: The initial minimum credit limit will be at least $250.00 and the following fees will be billed to your first statement: Account Set-Up Fee of $29.00, the Program Fee of $95.00, the Annual Fee of $48.00, the Additional Card Fee of $20.00 per card (if applicable) and Monthly Servicing Fee of $7.00. These fees will reduce your available credit until they are paid. If you are assigned the minimum credit limit of $250.00 your initial available credit will be $71.00 ($51.00 if you select the additional card option).
American Banking News confirms the story - »www.americanbankingnews.com/2009···it-card/

It has been reported that many banks are raising their credit card interest rates before new federal regulations come into effect as part of the Credit Card Act of 2009, but First Premier Bankcard of Sioux Falls, SD, took it to the next level and is now offering some of their customers credit cards at interest rates as high as 79.9% APR.

The story first broke when San Diego’s NBC affiliate received a report from a viewer that he had received a pre-approved credit card offer from First Premier Bankcard, LLC at with a 79.9% APR. The viewer, Gordon Hageman, said he couldn’t believe it when he got the credit card mail. In an interview with the NBC affiliate, Hageman said, “My first thought, it was a mistake.”

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Snakeoil
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After reading what you posted, it sounds like a high risk card. A card that banks issues to those with bad credit.

1]250 starter limit.
2]Fees are applied to the card, reducing balance to 71 bucks, until fees are paid.

Then maybe after a period of time of a good history the card will migrate to one with a higher balance and lower interest rates/fees.
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dogma
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reply to pandora
I have to call BS here.

I get their offers all the time (I'm a credit risk). I just went through the to-the-shredder file. Read all of the fine print on 2 offers, and its a 9.99% APR into, that goes to 24.9% after 6 months or a year. Also cash advances are 19.9% APR.

I think that 79.9% looks to be the cumulative rate when one adds all of the start up fees

"If you are assigned the minimum credit limit of $250.00 your initial available credit will be $71.00 ($51.00 if you select the additional card option)."
$250 - $51 = $199 in up front fees. $250 x .799 (79.9%) = $199.75 Equation solved.

This is a hard money lender in a high risk market. These "fees" mitigate the risk. Financially responsible people with very good credit history are not First Premiere Banks target market. They are after people who, for whatever reason, seek to rebuild their credit. It's worth it to many to just pay out the fees, on this card, and probably a couple more hard money credit cards, and build their credit up (or back up) over time.

cscottm

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reply to pandora
I wonder if they are in partnership with this company

»www.cashcall.com/General/Rates.aspx


Loco
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reply to pandora
Thats insane !

pandora
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 reply to cscottm
said by cscottm See Profile :

I wonder if they are in partnership with this company

»www.cashcall.com/General/Rates.aspx
OMG 139.34% ... are people really capable of being this stupid?
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Holy crap.

$2600 loan. 36 payments @ $298.94=10761.84!

I'm all for free market and stuff, but damn that should be illegal.
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reply to pandora
Here's one of the commericals for it also

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_2WEentvFQ


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reply to pandora
You would be better off spending the same amount in fees on the lottery.

As it is, you must spend $179 to receive $71 available credit.
It doesn't even matter what your interest rate is unless you
can't pay off a $250 balance. If that is true, you must be high risk.
Then, every single time they upgrade your limit, you pay $25.
They are probably only increasing you $25 or $50 at a time.

It seems to be about the same as a prepaid credit card,
without the benefit of you owning the prepaid amount.
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pandora
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  The credit card I use almost exclusively has an 8.9% annual charge at the moment, but I never pay it as my bill is paid off each month in full. I also get 1% cash back. Using the card generates a very small amount of cash for me. It is a good deal IMO. How anyone could consider 79.9% under any circumstance is beyond my understanding. I feel very sorry for anyone who gets a card on these terms, they are likely needlessly desperate and unable to shop appropriately for credit.
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Archivis
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said by Omega See Profile :

Holy crap.

$2600 loan. 36 payments @ $298.94=10761.84!

I'm all for free market and stuff, but damn that should be illegal.
Why? Getting this card is voluntary, isn't it?
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