 Pv8man join:2008-07-24 Hammond, IN | Comcast Comcast - "We should be able to block any traffic we want because we own the internet, not to mention all the kickbacks we will get from the entertainment industry for blocking certain p2p apps" |
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 | they own the last mile of the network they created. so yes they do own what you view. You only lease that last mile of the network and pay for the network. They provide the internet as an addon. |
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 | said by hottboiinnc:they own the last mile of the network they created. so yes they do own what you view. You only lease that last mile of the network and pay for the network. They provide the internet as an addon. Time to break up comcast. They are way too big. |
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 | And the same should happen to: AT$T and VZ. But will never happen.
When Comcast is broken up ATT and VZ better be split right along with them. But when everyone's prices go up, you can thank the courts for that one as well. |
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 | reply to Pv8man fuck off comcast and all the other ISP who think they can cap you or block content or slow content. one of these days your company will go down and no one will care. |
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 | reply to hottboiinnc Their customers pay Comcast to deliver their bytes. To intentionally do anything else--such as packet forgery (falsely in the name of "network management")--constitutes contractual fraud. Customers pay for "Internet access", not access to the "Comcast network".
"...internet as an addon." = too funny.  |
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 | It is an add-on. They own the network and lease that not the Internet. |
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 | reply to gorehound And you'll do what? complain to ATT? VZ? TWC?
Nobody will care about you. the Internet will be capped and you'll like it or do without. |
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 | reply to hottboiinnc Nope. That's like saying the post office owns your mail because they deliver it to you. Silliness. |
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 | they do. once it enters their system it is there's until the addressee OPENS it. |
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 | reply to hottboiinnc Which part of "Internet Service Provider" is it that you fail to grasp? (apparently all of it) |
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 | reply to hottboiinnc I pay for Internet SERVICE. I don't own/lease the wire. I don't own/lease the network, and frankly I don't care what they do with their hardware or network as long as it doesn't interfere with my Internet SERVICE. The point your missing is who gets to define what the "Internet" is? Because if ISP get to block, throttle, or otherwise alter my connection on any level OTHER than a total slowdown or shutoff of my connection, then I'm not getting the same "Internet" as everyone else. When I order Internet Service from an ISP, I have the assumption that I'm getting the same Internet as everyone else at whatever speed and conditions I agree to with my ISP.
What the FCC is doing is actually helping to uphold the definition of the "Internet" so that when you purchase "Internet" service from an ISP, you know what you're getting. |
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 Pv8man join:2008-07-24 Hammond, IN | reply to hottboiinnc Really "hitboiinnc" ? "the Internet will be capped and you'll like it or do without."
I guess someone owns stock in Comcast, huh? |
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 | reply to hottboiinnc Uh...if I recall correctly history has shown the breakup of giant corporations who have natural monopolies or duopolies leads to greater innovation and lower prices.
So what are you talking about? |
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 Z801 point 77Premium join:2009-08-31 Amerika | reply to hottboiinnc That they created...
...and is regulated on multiple levels including antitrust laws that prevent Comcast from using their market position to hamper video competitors. |
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 Z801 point 77Premium join:2009-08-31 Amerika 1 edit | reply to hottboiinnc Yeah, because we know that less competition and market consolidation leads to lower prices.  |
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 | reply to sonicmerlin Look at ATT or VZ prices and their price hikes? i don't see that as lower prices. We also didn't see xDSL until Covad and others started to offer it. |
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 | reply to mod_wastrel They do not call them selves that. They provide it as a part of the network access. |
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 | reply to Michael C YOU PAY FOR ACCESS TO THEIR NETWORK. THE SAME AS WHEN YOU PAY FOR CABLE TV. YOU PAY FOR THE CHANNELS THEY OFFER YOU AND NOTHING MORE. |
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 | reply to Pv8man Nope. But the FCC doesn't have any control over the Internet and the Courts will see it that way. |
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