| Very odd behavior It seems odd to me that they would continue to fight this. The sanction had no teeth, they could be on their way.
Of course, I do get that they are trying to fight precedent, but claiming that the FCC's doesn't have that authority is probably a risky thing to do when the FCC is in the process of defining what sort of authority it means to exert.
I can just see the FCC stating, "OH yeah, we forgot about that, thanks for reminding us we will make sure that one gets in".
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| They're trying to set a precedent. They know if the FCC lets them get a pass on this after the ruling against them then they will be able to do what they please and thumb their noses. They will never adhere to anything. Your move FCC and you better make it good. |
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| And the FCC and try and do all they want. Comcast will keep going to court over it. The FCC doesn't really have any control over the Internet, and Comcast knows this. |
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| Sure they do. They made that clear already which got Comcast to stop to begin with.
They also make that clear when they layout the "principles" of broadband and net neutrality. They may not have teeth right now, but they certainly do dictate those things.
I agree with you one of your above statements though, at least partially as I would say they need to force all current providers to decide right here and right now: Are you a dumbpipe or a content provider? Pick one, because you can't be both. |
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| They will pick both.
The FCC does not have any control over the Internet DUE to it NOT being regulated. As soon as the FCC steps in and decides they have control the Internet will be taxed. That's something that has been blocked for many many years now.
The courts will tell the FCC they don't have control over it as well. Just like the FCC tried to tell cable companies they have a cap but if you deployed IPTV you didn't have a cap because the Telco's argued it's not "cable tv". The courts see it as "cable tv".
The thing comes down to it though, the network is owned and operated by the cable or telco or the ISP. They are NOT the Internet and only provide access to it. They can easily go back to the Walled Garden and become AOL all over again if the Net Neutrality BS passes and becomes law. But the fact is it has to become law first. And the FCC DOES NOT create laws. They only create Rules which the court's do not like.
Everyone that may be in favor of Net Netural is gonna have a nice surprise if it happens. Walled Gardens will come back and AOL will be the ISP everyone gets stuck with. |
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| A walled garden is not going to get any of these companies business. Interesting thoughts on the rest of your post. |
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| a WG may not get them any business but what happens when they're the only company to turn to? The same as AOL when it first came out? Their garden WAS the Internet. You either partnered with them or didn't get any customers/visitors. |
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| The point is that they won't have any customers with that approach. That ship has sailed with Earthlink, AOL, Compuserve, and the other networks. The internet is where it's at. No business will be able to put that genie back in the bottle... |
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| AOL still has their software and still makes it. It's free to use with any connection you have as long as you bring you own connection.
You have a point, but when your only option is the WG or not what are you going to do? You can recreate everything. And the thing that the cable/telco's see is that they maybe the only option for many many people. People will use it and thats the thing. |
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God you`re such a troll. You know absolutely nothing about how the internet business works. Why don`t you just stop talking already. |
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said by hottboiinnc:They will pick both. The FCC does not have any control over the Internet DUE to it NOT being regulated. As soon as the FCC steps in and decides they have control the Internet will be taxed. That's something that has been blocked for many many years now. The courts will tell the FCC they don't have control over it as well. Just like the FCC tried to tell cable companies they have a cap but if you deployed IPTV you didn't have a cap because the Telco's argued it's not "cable tv". The courts see it as "cable tv". The thing comes down to it though, the network is owned and operated by the cable or telco or the ISP. They are NOT the Internet and only provide access to it. They can easily go back to the Walled Garden and become AOL all over again if the Net Neutrality BS passes and becomes law. But the fact is it has to become law first. And the FCC DOES NOT create laws. They only create Rules which the court's do not like. Everyone that may be in favor of Net Netural is gonna have a nice surprise if it happens. Walled Gardens will come back and AOL will be the ISP everyone gets stuck with. LMFAO!!! It's too late!! The Internet is out of the Bag!! And it ain't going back in!!
I know Camost can do some stupid crap. But I highly doubt they'll be doing a Walled Garden setup any time soon.
Now you, You just stay in your little ole AOL Garden and leave the real internet to those of us that know how to make use of it, and do.
My bill says I pay for Internet, Not Comcast Network. I am paying for access to the internet. Be it through Comcast's network or however's network. FYI ISP = Internet Service Provider. That who Comcast is. Not a WGP = Walled Garden Provider
If it take some FCC Mandated Regulated Law to keep the internet free and unfettered access. So be it! That's what Comcast and AT&T and the likes are afraid of. Remember not even 2 (maybe only a year) years ago, AT&T I belive wanted to charge companies such as Google to allow access over thier network to thier users?? That's when all this talk of Net Nuetrality started to come about. Besides when Comcast was lieing about forging packets.
If it wasn't for the openess of the internet. Tons of companies would never even exist today.
Paul
Maybe if the banking and finace world had still been regulated we wouldn't be in the mess it's in today. |
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The same about you. You do the same with ATT. |
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Comcast and ATT control the Internet and the backbone that it uses. They also control everything from their network to YOUR HOUSE. Use what they provide or don't use anything.
ATT will get what they want and so will Comcast. ATT can just stop giving the DHS access to the wholesale network for blocking their moves, and they too would sue the same as Comcast is doing. |
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| I am going to have to agree with sonicmerlin on this one.
Beyond that you are in this fantasy world if you think Comcast and AT&T can suddenly take their ball and go home.
They can't and if they even tried the regulation bodies would be so far up their asses you wouldn't know where they began and the government ended.
AT&T and Comcast own a majority of the last mile in their territories, they do not own a majority of the core internet. They cannot control or dictate the internet and they know this which is why they are fighting so hard to not officially become the dumbpipes they truly are. |
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