Comcast Still Fighting FCC Throttling Sanction > Throttling?

Throttling?

they didn't "hack" they simply disrupted their OWN Network for working the correct way. You forget, YOUR ISP OWNS the last mile of network. That is ONLY connected to the Internet and IS NOT the internet. You get the Internet as an add-on bonus.

You are such a comcastie.

I will agree they own the last mile, but the packets they don't own and if I am not mistaken this has been determined in courts already. So no they did not "disrupt their OWN Network", they disrupted the user's packets and communications with a service outside of comcast.

They have no more of a right to modify your P2P packets "for network management" than they do for your email messages or your youtube video that is streaming. Comcast does NOT get to determine who's packets are more important and who's packets dont get to be delivered at all.

Are you going to tell me that FedEx owns the computer systems I ship with them because it is their transport I am using? The same concept applies here. They are the user's packets and they are simply sending them across Comcast's transport which they purchased the right to do.

Actually with FedEx, YES, they own that product once it is in their truck. The same as the USPS OWNS the item you are mailing. Go Read the TOS/AUP that FedEx and UPS has when you ship with them. Same rules apply.

And no, as far as being in favor of Comcast (by the way never had them in my life), they own what goes over that network, once it HITS THEIR NETWORK.

They can turn your connection into a Walled Garden in under 2 seconds if they wanted to and you'd be SOLed. Why? They provide the NETWORK's LAST MILE, and GIVE YOU access to the Internet. They say you can access it if THEY ALLOW you. IF you don't like what they have to say, then DO NOT USE THEM. The same applies to USPS vs FedEx and UPS. IF you don't like the way the USPS handles its product, you do like i did, go to UPS and let them mail everything. May cost more but at least you know it gets there and when. You also don't have to worry about prices going up every year and having to deal with their asshol* employees.

reply to hottboiinnc
Nope. The point of being on the network and paying for the service is to get ON the internet, not Comcast's network.

reply to hottboiinnc
Very strange view of how this situation works. You have to look at intent of service. The point is NOT to be on Comcast's network. It's to be on the INTERNET. Comcast is just a transport to the internet. We see things VERY differently.

reply to jjeffeory
True, but Comcast and the rest of the ISPs do not see it that way NOR was it meant to be that way. It was meant to deliver their products TO YOU in a high speed fashion.

That is why the ISP should NOT be the company that owns the network (ie: @Home days with both Comcast, ATTB, Cox, Rogers, CableVision, etc).

But that will never happen again due to the fall out that @home suffered. So what happens is the Walled Garden comes back into play after AOL becomes the official ISP of every Last Mile owner.

reply to jjeffeory
Yes, but see, you admit that you use Comcast's network. There for they decide what you can and not use THEIR network for. You only pay to USE THEIR Network. They don't say anywhere in any document that you get access to the full internet NOR do they have to give it to you. You pay for access to the NETWORK.

reply to hottboiinnc
i'm sorry but the ip that comcast gives its customers does not belong to comcast. they have persmission to use it. big difference. personally i wish that iana would step up with some rules for ISPs.

reply to hottboiinnc
are you brian roberts? ceo of comcast?

reply to hottboiinnc
the isp only transports my information. in no way do they have any right to look at or analyze it.

reply to hottboiinnc
Wrong.

reply to FBGuy
They do. Take a look at the ATT/Yahoo AUP/TOS that has been upheld in court. ATT has the right to view it and THEY OWN it.

dude fine. in your logic if i were to say share the entire collection of michael jacksons greatest hits on a comcast connection then comcast is responsible for the fact that it is shared and actually transmitting to other people.

reply to hottboiinnc
Im going to guess you are just making up the FedEx/UPS rebuttal without yourself doing any reading as I just reviewed the 49 page TOS of UPS and it does not state in a single place that ownership of property is shifted to them while it is in transport. Nice try though.

Again, they do not own a single packet that goes over the internet. You seriously need to stop just making stuff up. It is making you look even more like a troll.

Your dumb wall garden threat has been rebutted in other places so I wont do it again here.

reply to zalternate
They were throttling the upstream of bitorrent packets therefore slowing down: the download side, as well as the upload side. By doing this, transfers took longer to complete.