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Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:27:22 EDT

burgermeister posted :

said by mbaha:

how do reboot? what happens when get a virus? I'll wait for the iCar

None of that is an issue. For once, Microsoft is afforded the advantage that Apple always has: they only have to write code to support limited/specific hardware configurations.

My guess is that if Mac OS was expected to run on any POS that someone decides to slap together as well as hardware from thousands of manufactures, it would suffer the same issues.
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Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Wed, 13 Jan 2010 22:55:26 EDT

mbaha posted : how do reboot? what happens when get a virus? I'll wait for the iCar
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Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Tue, 12 Jan 2010 12:52:37 EDT

gjrhine posted : Just got a 2010 Mercury Mariner with Microsoft Sync. I control my phone, music, navigation, personalized news, weather and sports by having a verbal conversation with my car. I am finding this pretty awesome. :)
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Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:09:43 EDT

sailor posted : No auctions.

From my post earlier regarding the black 2005

"You can see by the photos I took of her the condition she is in and no abuse here....all this for approx $10k including shipping."

Car was car carried to me from Chicago from a dealer who specializes in used P71's
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Approx $7k for the blue 2004. Private seller.

Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Wed, 16 Dec 2009 13:37:54 EDT

mbaha posted :

said by sailor:

said by mbaha:

Price?
Do you have Ballistic Door Panels

The two I have don't have the ballistic door panel option. I believe it is a recent factory fleet option. My two police interceptors are a 2004 and a 2005.

As for price if your asking what the price of a 2010 Crown Victoria Police Interceptor is I would guess around $30k for basic P71 and then more depending on options.

What did you pay for your cars? I assume you got them at some auction
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Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:58:25 EDT

sailor posted :

said by mbaha:

Price?
Do you have Ballistic Door Panels

Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Mon, 14 Dec 2009 16:32:46 EDT

mbaha posted : Price?
Do you have Ballistic Door Panels

Re: Ford makes a quarterly profit

Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:21:07 EDT

ThrowDemsOut posted :

said by ThrowDemsOut:

P.S.>> I have been impressed with the improving quality of Ford cars and am seriously looking at a Ford Fusion Hybrid or Mercury Milan Hybrid for purchase early next year. To me the quality has matched up nicely with the Lexus HS250h hybrid that costs $10,000 more with the same feature set.

I just bought a fully optioned 2010 Mercury Milan Hybrid.
Has a $850 hybrid tax credit I get at income tax time next yr
and also can write off my 7% NJ sales tax on federal tax forms due to 2009 federal stimulus pkg.
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Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:31:07 EDT

sailor posted : That was the best article I've seen to date on the subject.

I especially like GM's plan. Not only for the power but the sculpted front seats. One thing I've seen on many used P71 Crown Vics is the excessive seat wear and eventual tears in the seat where the gun/holster constantly rubbed against the seat. Those sculpted seats will eliminate that as well as add to the comfort as mentioned.
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The Caprice PPV will be powered by a 6.0L V-8 engine with Active Fuel Management technology and E85 capability. GM says it will do the 0-to-60 sprint in less than six seconds, and Goebel said it will have a top speed “in the 150-mph range. We’re not sure exactly what the horsepower will be yet, but it will be in the neighborhood of 355.”

One notable feature in the future Caprice PPV will be front seats that are “sculpted” to conform to the shape of the various items that police officers carry in their equipment belts. “So, it’s a more comfortable seat for officers, many of whom spend long hours behind the wheel,” said Goebel.

Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:26:25 EDT

CylonRed posted : »autos.aol.com/article/future-cop-cars

quote:
All things must pass, a wise man once wrote. And, so it must pass with the venerable Ford Crown Victoria â€“ both for everyday car buyers and for police officers.

After 15 years of dominating the police-cruiser market, the Crown Vic will retire in late 2011. That means police agencies all over the country will have some decisions to make, since about 85 percent of the 75,000 police cars currently sold in the U.S. are Crown Vics.

Indeed, the Crown Vic has “lorded it” over that market since 1996, when GM stopped building the Chevy Caprice, which for years was Ford’s main competitor in the police-car niche.
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But police agencies will have plenty of options as they look for replacements. In October and November, General Motors and Ford, respectively, announced their own plans for all-new police cars that will be “purpose-built” -- that is, specifically designed and built as police cruisers.

GM said it will start building a new Chevy Caprice Police Patrol Vehicle (PPV) in time for it to be hit the highways in early 2011, and Ford announced it will deliver the new Ford Police Interceptor in time to replace the Crown Vic cruiser when it goes away later that year.

And there’s also the new Carbon Motors, which has announced it will produce a new purpose-built police cruiser of its own -- which it is currently referring to as the “E7," or more potently as "The Machine" -- starting in 2012.

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Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Tue, 08 Dec 2009 00:20:10 EDT

cmaenginsb posted :

said by imrf:

It's not as big, but it's gonna be tough for the police. No company is releasing a car as big as the Crown Vic or the old caprice. Their officers are just going to have to go on a diet. :o :p

It will be interesting, on one hand when you see the amount of gear in the car you understand why but without a larger car, maybe they'll lean towards SUVs?
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Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Tue, 08 Dec 2009 00:11:13 EDT

JukeBoxHero posted : Ford stock was $1,60 on 2-20-09. It is now $8.91 a share as of yesterday. Way to go Ford. I've been in at $3.90.

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Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:33:16 EDT

sailor posted : I'm of the opinion that the popularity of the Crown Vics among law enforcement and fleet users will result in Ford continuing manufacturing the heavy duty version Crown Vics for those two purposes through their Ford Fleet Division for many more years regardless of what they have previously announced.

Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Mon, 07 Dec 2009 16:56:56 EDT

PhilAIV posted :

said by imrf:

Ford has already announced that this is the final year the car will be produced. Its fate has been sealed.

If they're going to do it they need to just do it. I work with some of the largest suppliers of p71's and we've heard this from Ford every few years. Granted this year it has publicized more than in the past.

Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Mon, 07 Dec 2009 15:06:23 EDT

imrf posted : Ford has already announced that this is the final year the car will be produced. Its fate has been sealed.

Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Mon, 07 Dec 2009 14:40:40 EDT

PhilAIV posted :

said by imrf:

said by sailor:

There's a reason they are the number 1 car of choice among law enforcement agencies across America.

Um, they're the only real choice? The Impala isn't practical for cops and they don't like them And the Charger just sucks. But the Crown Vic is going to be dieing soon. 2010 will be the last model year for it. The Taurus will more than likely be Fords replacement, and GM is going to bring back the Caprice by using the G8/Commodore from Holden.

They've been saying the Crown Vic is going to be retired for years, but keep pushing it back a couple more years, so we'll see if it actually happens this time around.

Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Thu, 03 Dec 2009 06:46:13 EDT

imrf posted : It's not as big, but it's gonna be tough for the police. No company is releasing a car as big as the Crown Vic or the old caprice. Their officers are just going to have to go on a diet. :o :p

Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Thu, 03 Dec 2009 01:37:08 EDT

cmaenginsb posted :

said by imrf:

said by sailor:

There's a reason they are the number 1 car of choice among law enforcement agencies across America.

Unless the Taurus is as big as the Crown Vic then it will be as successful as the Impala. The other issue with the Imp of course was the FWD and cops not wanting to retrain.
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Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:22:56 EDT

sailor posted : For anyone interested in a used P71 here is some basic info.

»www.fleet.ford.com/showroom/2009···eInt.asp

Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:41:34 EDT

sailor posted : The blue 2004 that I just put on the road yesterday. Am removing the two red lights on the back top of rear seats ( disconnected them for now ) but as soon as I put plates on it yesterday I drove to my mechanic to get NY state emissions test done and it flew right through that with flying colors. This is a vehicle with 95k on the clock and you can see it is in excellent condition with absolutely no previous signs of abuse at all. The car runs, drives and shifts like it had 35k miles on her and not 95k. Full power.

Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:34:28 EDT

sailor posted :

said by cmaenginsb:

said by sailor:

I've been confident Ford would make it way back when their stock was a dollar or so and I recently purchased a couple of Crown Victoria P71 Police Interceptors. A 2004 and a 2005. What awesome cars they are. There's a reason they are the number 1 car of choice among law enforcement agencies across America.

Just got a new 2010 Ford Fleet brochure today.

The only reason I would hesitate to buy an ex-Police car is that I got to see the abuse they go through, and people think rental cars are bad.

As to car of choice, who really makes a RWD 4 door car with a large enough interior anymore? I do see that there are a lot of other cars being used for non-cruiser duties (Santa Ana for example has Malibus and Honda Accord Hybrids for detectives and commanders) but for a cruiser, I think they are the best, although the Charger screaming up in your rearview lights blazing can bit a bit imtimidating.

The flip side of the cars taking abuse is that they are probably one of the best maintained cars on the roads. Serviced on a regular basis etc. But I do understand what you meant but if you wanted a Crown Vic Police Interceptor you don't have to buy one that was used as a daily patrol car driven by many different officers and run to hell.

When I started looking for a P71 ( police interceptor to keep it short ) I didn't want one that came from a local police department that was used day in day out as a patrol car...I wanted one that was low mileage and preferable used by a Federal agency or one that was purchased new and assigned to a detective that was a take home car and not used for pulling people over or for high speed pursuit. I always wanted a Crown Victoria but also wanted one that was a P71 because they are manufactured with so many heavy-duty components compared to the Crown Victoria manufactured for civilian use. (P71's have not been available new to the public but the public can purchase a used one.)

I spent months looking for a low mileage one and they are out there but you have to look and look and look. I came oh so close in buying a 2008 that was never put into police service and was a fleet dealership demo. It had the optional fire suppression system and under 5k miles on her but the guy wouldn't budge off of his asking price and so I kept looking elsewhere.

I finally found a 2005 Black P71 with only 48k miles in mint condition. It was a one agent federal law enforcement P71 and it also had the optional street appearance package including full front cloth seats and armrests along with full interior carpeting....Chrome grill and door handles and full wheel covers instead of the dog dish wheel covers. An awesome car that was in Chicago and I purchased it and made a deal on the purchase price to have it shipped to me here in NY and the car is beyond my expectations.

You can see by the photos I took of her the condition she is in and no abuse here....all this for approx $10k including shipping.

The next day or so after buying that one I saw a blue 2004 with higher mileage ( 95k ) but was in amazing condition for sale in central PA. This was ordered by the NC highway patrol and was never used as a daily patrol car...It also was ordered with the optional 'Street Appearance' package . It was then sold to a private collector who removed all the street appearance items and turned it into the 'stealth' look. He had tons of pictures and he also had a binder inches thick from the N.C. Highway Patrol with each and every service record of the vehicle from the moment they took delivery of the car. The slightest little thing the car needed and bam, it was installed.

So I bought that blue 04 as well and made a deal with the collector to deliver it to my home and he did. While I have had the black 05 on the road for about a month now I just put the blue 04 on the road yesterday ( see photos )

Both of these vehicles are beyond my expectations...they will run and run and run with the proven 4.6 engine and they as you mentioned rear-wheel drive, tons of interior and trunk space, very comfortable and have all heavy duty components not found in a regular civilian Crown Vic and yet they get decent to good gas mileage and to me they are very sharp looking vehicles.

So all in all, no need to hesitant on buying a used Crown Vic P71. Just spend the time searching for one that wasn't used as a daily squad car...They're out there and eBay I would say is the best place to look on a regular basis.

These cars are awesome. No rust anywhere, original paint and these engines will run 250k miles and even more. That is why many taxi's are always on the lookout for used Crown Vics. They know they have been maintained on a regular basis and will run and run and run.

I've owned dozen of vehicles over the years and I will say driving one of these P71's across the country with the cruise control on ( they both have it ) would be such a pleasant and comfortable experience. And that to me is more important at this time than any 0-60 time. And with so much interior room and a trunk so huge you could move your belongings across the country without the need for a U-Haul :)

Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:51:39 EDT

imrf posted :

said by sailor:

There's a reason they are the number 1 car of choice among law enforcement agencies across America.

Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Tue, 24 Nov 2009 01:26:49 EDT

cmaenginsb posted :

Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:36:24 EDT

Homunculus posted : I really like the new SHO... but $42k+ (Nav)... eh.
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Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:36:12 EDT

KoolMoe posted : I generally like Ford. A few buddies back in HS days had old Ford trucks that definitely took a lickin' and still kicked ass.
But the first minivan we bought, a Ford Windstar, was an absolutely Piece Of Sh.
Haven't bought a Ford since. Maybe in another 5 years... Glad to see them getting their act together though.
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Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:10:34 EDT

sailor posted : I've been confident Ford would make it way back when their stock was a dollar or so and I recently purchased a couple of Crown Victoria P71 Police Interceptors. A 2004 and a 2005. What awesome cars they are. There's a reason they are the number 1 car of choice among law enforcement agencies across America.

Just got a new 2010 Ford Fleet brochure today.

Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:34:16 EDT

VegasMan posted :

said by mbaha:

F is back in the $9 range, maybe I should take my 300%+ profit now....

I'm with you. Bought in last Dec. 4th at an avg. of 2.87/sh just hope it keeps around 9+ for a few more weeks so it goes long and save a few hundred in taxes. :D
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Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:24:45 EDT

PrntRhd posted : If Ford gets a bunch of their better-than-average Euro models here, they may change a few minds.

Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:59:22 EDT

mbaha posted : F is back in the $9 range, maybe I should take my 300%+ profit now....
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Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:18:12 EDT

Loco posted : Ford SYNC

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=9renvWel9cY

Looks good, but i still wouldn't buy a Ford though.

Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:10:40 EDT

cmaenginsb posted :

said by Boricua65:

I saw that article and was suprised. I have had a Ford and so did my mom years ago. I personally made sure that would be my last Ford ever. I have noticed the products they've put out does look very enticing. My major problem I have is the inability to get a 5-speed manual, especially with a V6.

That's slowly becoming the case with any car sold in the US with a few "sports" exceptions.
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Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:26:38 EDT

Boricua65 posted : I saw that article and was suprised. I have had a Ford and so did my mom years ago. I personally made sure that would be my last Ford ever. I have noticed the products they've put out does look very enticing. My major problem I have is the inability to get a 5-speed manual, especially with a V6.
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Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:04:48 EDT

TearAbite posted :

said by cmaenginsb:

being the only US automaker to not get loans from the govt, I have to give them some props.

Absolutely!
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Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Wed, 04 Nov 2009 02:26:07 EDT

cmaenginsb posted :

said by TearAbite:

said by cmaenginsb:

So you're rating an the entire Ford product line based on 1-2 models?

pretty much..

But i also said i would go check out some new ones - including non-mustang models.. like that new conFusion ..

:) I personally shared your feelings but I've been impressed with certain Ford models, not all though. Between those improvements and being the only US automaker to not get loans from the govt, I have to give them some props.
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Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Wed, 04 Nov 2009 00:36:59 EDT

TearAbite posted :

said by cmaenginsb:

So you're rating an the entire Ford product line based on 1-2 models?

pretty much..

But i also said i would go check out some new ones - including non-mustang models.. like that new conFusion ..
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Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Wed, 04 Nov 2009 00:36:24 EDT

cmaenginsb posted :

said by TearAbite:

remember, just because a company (Jaguar) is owned by Ford, or some lame Indian company, it does not "make" it a ford.. Take a ride in an XF or an XK and you'll know what i mean.. if after taking a ride in one of these you still think "it's a Ford", i'd call you a liar to your face.

aside from my previous perceptions, i dont really care what nameplate is on a car.. If i was car-shopping today and a Ford had the build, fit & finish as the Japanese or German (or, "Indian") cars, and the price was right, i would by it - but, based on my past experience (up thru last year), the Ford products were nowhere close to the competition.

Which Ford products did you look at besides the Mustang?
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Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Wed, 04 Nov 2009 00:31:00 EDT

cmaenginsb posted :

said by TearAbite:

no offense taken.. But now i'll probably go check out a new Ford just to see how it compares - although like i already posted previously, my friend's '08 Mustang GT was trash on the interior, just like the '95 Tbird, and '85 GT.. So i'm not confident that much has changed from 2008 to 2009..

So you're rating an the entire Ford product line based on 1-2 models?

The mustang has the worst interior of any Ford made of any year IMHO. When you look at their "regular" cars it's a lot better.
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Ford makes a quarterly profit

Mon, 02 Nov 2009 10:32:06 EDT

ThrowDemsOut posted : Ford actually made a profit this past quarter and exceeded Wall St estimates by a large margin. But all is not good for the long term yet. The UAW in the US(Canada approved it) rejected a group of rule changes meant to give Ford the same flexibility in car making that the foreign auto makers have. So either Ford moves more production to Canada & Mexico or the UAW finally wakes up in the US and accepts reasonable work rules. Otherwise, Ford production in the US will cease to exist.

»news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091102/ap_···rns_ford

P.S.>> I have been impressed with the improving quality of Ford cars and am seriously looking at a Ford Fusion Hybrid or Mercury Milan Hybrid for purchase early next year. To me the quality has matched up nicely with the Lexus HS250h hybrid that costs $10,000 more with the same feature set.
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Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Sun, 01 Nov 2009 23:21:19 EDT

Thislilfishy posted : Been driving Ford trucks for quite a while, they are hands, feets, arms, heads above anything comming off a GM assembly line (we use GM trucks at work becuase they are cheaper).

At the end of the day...which of the big three decided they didn't need your tax dollars to survive?

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Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Sat, 31 Oct 2009 16:53:23 EDT

PrntRhd posted :

said by uber69er:

said by TearAbite:

Hey! Lucas invented the intermittant windshield-wiper..

Wasn't that Professor Robert Kearns?

I think you missed the joke.
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Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Sat, 31 Oct 2009 16:41:22 EDT

uber69er posted :

said by TearAbite:

Hey! Lucas invented the intermittant windshield-wiper..

Wasn't that Professor Robert Kearns?

Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:37:55 EDT

No_Strings posted : Not on purpose, though. ;)

Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:23:40 EDT

TearAbite posted : Hey! Lucas invented the intermittant windshield-wiper..

Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:09:40 EDT

PrntRhd posted : The reputation of British cars was primarily laid at the door of unreliable Lucas electrical systems that would leave you stranded at night in the rain. And can you say "positive ground ignition"?
:o
Of course Lucas blames evil outsourcers who had bad quality control and put Lucas' name on the components. In any case Lucas is now known as "the prince of darkness". When Ford bought Jaguar they got rid of all Lucas components for quality reasons.

British spotty build quality of course also did not help.

Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:47:59 EDT

TearAbite posted : remember, just because a company (Jaguar) is owned by Ford, or some lame Indian company, it does not "make" it a ford.. Take a ride in an XF or an XK and you'll know what i mean.. if after taking a ride in one of these you still think "it's a Ford", i'd call you a liar to your face.

aside from my previous perceptions, i dont really care what nameplate is on a car.. If i was car-shopping today and a Ford had the build, fit & finish as the Japanese or German (or, "Indian") cars, and the price was right, i would by it - but, based on my past experience (up thru last year), the Ford products were nowhere close to the competition.
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Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:41:45 EDT

Lurch77 posted : It's been brought up, but funny coming from a guy that swoons after a car built by Ford and now by an Indian company. Remember the joke British cars were as far as reliability? You got over that somehow. I can't see you or many others ever getting past the domestic nameplate on a Ford though, no matter what Ford accomplishes.
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Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:26:30 EDT

TearAbite posted : no offense taken.. But now i'll probably go check out a new Ford just to see how it compares - although like i already posted previously, my friend's '08 Mustang GT was trash on the interior, just like the '95 Tbird, and '85 GT.. So i'm not confident that much has changed from 2008 to 2009..

Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:22:45 EDT

gattaca posted :

said by TearAbite:

You're right WallE, i havnt gone near any new Fords because my PERCEPTION from years of experience is that they are trash - that is my whole point.

Ford has a lot of perception rebuilding to do.

PS - i couldn't give a rats a-- about Sync.. it's just a gimmick to me.. two of my cars have voice control, and neither my wife nor I ever use it. I care more about build quality, fit & finish of the entire car.

Oh OK, didn't mean to offend.
I understand being hesitant (or unwilling) to look at brands because of past experience.

My only point is that current Fords are very competitive, and absent any past biases, people really should check them out.

But I'm not out to change your mind or anything, buy what you want and if its your decision to look past Ford because of past problems, that's your decision. :)
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Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:25:45 EDT

TearAbite posted : You're right WallE, i havnt gone near any new Fords because my PERCEPTION from years of experience is that they are trash - that is my whole point.

Ford has a lot of perception rebuilding to do.

PS - i couldn't give a rats a-- about Sync.. it's just a gimmick to me.. two of my cars have voice control, and neither my wife nor I ever use it. I care more about build quality, fit & finish of the entire car.
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Re: Well Done, Ford!!

Sat, 31 Oct 2009 10:41:03 EDT

burgermeister posted :

said by CylonRed:

I have zero use for Sync - I would far prefer a car without it. Just like I would ratter have a manual transmission and no electric door locks\windows. Even full power brakes and steering I do not care for.

Maybe something like this (fully manual) would be more to your liking! Great mileage too! :D

»americanpedalcar.com/65_mustang_shelby.html
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