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| Why were rural teleco's allowed to charge higher rates? Rural Telephone Companies were given the right to charge higher rates to terminate calls because it costs Rural Telephone Companies more per subscriber to deliver service. A problem like this occurred between the Competitive Local Exchange Carriers and the Incumbent Local Exchange Carriers because the Incumbent Local Exchange Carriers had to pay the Competitive Local Exchange Carriers to terminate calls on the Competitive Local Exchange Carrier Network. As a result the Competitive Local Exchange Carriers took advantage of the situation by giving dial up ISP's low rates for connecting their modem pools to their networks. The CLEC's made money hand over fist with all of the calls coming into the Dial Up ISP's Modem Pools. The ILEC's fought reciprocal compensation tooth and nail with reciprocal compensation being reduced. Companies like Google Voice want to cherry pick who they deliver calls to to avoid the higher rates. |
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 NOVA_GuyObamaCare Kills AmericansPremium join:2002-03-05 | And what's the problem with Google Voice deciding to do this? They provide a free service to people that does not fall under the government regulations we're talking about, so as far as I can tell they're free to do what they want. |
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| said by NOVA_Guy:And what's the problem with Google Voice deciding to do this? They provide a free service to people that does not fall under the government regulations we're talking about, so as far as I can tell they're free to do what they want. Maybe that's a "loophole" too. Maybe VoIP has reached a level of ubiquity that it should be better regulated.
Also, your emphasis on "free" implies Google doesn't have a profit motive or receive an imputed value by providing it. RoI may be something else we need to think about beyond traditional bottom-line numbers.
The only argument I've heard which made sense (that GV should be less regulated) is that they aren't providing an end-user telephone service. It's just call forwarding. (However, I've read GV can be used with SIP as an end-user service. But, it sounds like GV tries to prevent that.).
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| reply to NOVA_Guy I agree that Google Voice has a right to block high cost calls but failed to mention that it is my belief that a company that selectively blocks calls to certain telephone companies can cause complete chaos. How will a customer know whether a call does not go through because of a translation error in the central office or the service provider blocking traffic to that telephone exchange. If any service provider wants to selective block calls they should provide a recorded announcement why the call is being blocked. |
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 | reply to Mr Matt I don't have numbers to back this statement, but I have been told by an expert that rural companies charge more due to historical lower incoming call volumes. Since more rural carriers customers call into the larger ILEC exchanges, in order to even out the costs, they charge higher rates when larger ILEC customers call into the rural carriers. This worked to keep the costs even over the years, so the large ILEC and the rural carriers were close to a net of zero for payments to connect calls to each other. Today, we have the conference calling compaines that have shifted the incoming call volumes to an extreme in ways that were never thought to be a problem. |
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| reply to amigo_boy However these rural carriers really are truly ripping off the common carriers. I don't blame Google one bit. I'd do it in a heartbeat (as would AT&T if they were allowed too.) -- "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
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| reply to Mr Matt Stop crying about it.
People know that those sex and conference numbers cannot really be free and have no reason to complain when voip companies block those scammer numbers. -- Democrats are not Socialists any more than Republicans are. |
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| reply to Telco_Eng The big phones companies did not want to serve an area of 50 farm families because it is not profitable. In retaliation, the states created the incentive of allowing anyone who would provide service in those areas to charge 6 cents a minute instead of the normal less than a penny a minutes for call terminations. The big phone companies are basically forced to subsidize those areas when their customers call there. It never really mattered when it was only 50 farm families living there, but now that there are 1,000s of extra scammer phone lines for sex and conference lines the high fees are simply stealing from the big phone companies and now voip providers. -- Democrats are not Socialists any more than Republicans are. |
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