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<description><![CDATA[signmeuptoo posted : I've had my best results with Coollabs Liquid Metal, I put it in onion skin thin.  However, it did corrode the copper and turned into a rough, non liquid form within a year.<br><br>I am now using AS5 which I applied perhaps a year ago or less, but temps are signicantly higher, very much so.  When I get the nerve up to do so, I am going to try applying the AS5 in some different way.<br><small>--<br>Happy Halloween/All Souls Day.  Join Teams Helix and Discovery.  Put that fancy computer to good use helping to find a cure, your mom will love you for it.  &raquo;<A HREF="/forum/helix">Team Helix</A> &raquo;<A HREF="/forum/disco">Team Discovery</A></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[CylonRed posted : Their grease is quite good as well.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[kingdome74 posted : This is mine just after I ran the test:<div class="borderless"><TABLE WIDTH=95% align=center border=0 CELLPADDING=4"><TR><TD ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#FFFFFF nwrap COLSPAN=2 WIDTH=66%><A HREF="/speak/slideshow/23290611?c=1486306&ret=L2ZvcnVtL3IyMzI1OTgzNS54bWw%3D"><IMG TITLE="47324 bytes" BORDER=0 WIDTH=316 HEIGHT=398 SRC="/r0/download/1486306~8a4d1a3ab71039028749b85f604c0824/Untitled.gif"></A></TD></TABLE></div>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:24:22 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[beerbum posted : here are my temps of my i7-860 using an ACF 7 Pro hs/f.. this is at standard clocking with the turbo mode active, I will wait about 10 days for the as5 to settle before I try overclocking..<br><br>[att=1]<div class="borderless"><TABLE WIDTH=95% align=center border=0 CELLPADDING=4"><TR><TD ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#FFFFFF nwrap COLSPAN=2 WIDTH=66%><A HREF="/speak/slideshow/23290283?c=1486289&ret=L2ZvcnVtL3IyMzI1OTgzNS54bWw%3D"><IMG TITLE="54405 bytes" BORDER=0 WIDTH=318 HEIGHT=408 SRC="/r0/download/1486289~93fa5204968f31a265eb930e93d24c37/RealTemp.png"></A></TD></TABLE></div>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:33:33 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[kingdome74 posted : Last installment:<br><br>I just installed an ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2 92mm with their stock MX-2 grease on it and the temps instantly nose-dived. It seems a complete surface coverage of the heatsink was the answer. <br><small>--<br>Teacher said we are responsible for what we do... unless you are a democrat.<br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[kingdome74 posted : I wasn't aware there were so many ways of applying AS5. Silly me I read the directions.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Mister_E posted : Benchmarkreviews.com had a good write up/test on 80 different TIMs.  They also did some testing on application procedures/patterns that are used:<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=150&Itemid=62" >benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?o&middot;&middot;&middot;temid=62</A><br><br>Myself, I went from originally using Arctic Silver3 to currently using Arctic Cooling MX-2.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[beerbum posted : oh.. I came up with that method by experimentation.. ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:05:25 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[kingdome74 posted : Actually I meant the way you put the AS5 on.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[beerbum posted : I dunno how common the practice is, I've been cleaning the cpu and heatsink with isopropyl alcohol (the purer the better) for well over a decade.. something I learned at Sun for maintaining and setting up Sun servers & workstations..]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 10:39:14 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[kingdome74 posted : Hmmm... interesting. I, in a past life, worked at a place that had tons of 99% IsoAlc so I availed myself of that to the point I have enough for the rest of my life. Is this something you came up with or is this a common application practice for i5/i7's? My temps on CPUID are exactly the same as yours.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 10:02:13 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Somnambul33t posted : i always use TIM on my builds but if the stuff that comes on stock HSFs didnt work as intended @ stock speeds, it wouldnt be on there.  ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:39:01 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Red Green posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/595169" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=595169');">Ray422</a>:</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/757727" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=757727');">Red Green</a>:</small><br><br>Some of the 1156 boards allow you to use LGA775 CPU HSFs'.  </div>How can you tell without a physical fit ?<br><br>More specifically, will an LGA775 fit this Gigabyte p55-ud3r?<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128401" >www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a&middot;&middot;&middot;13128401</A><br> </div>No, that board does not support any LGA775 HSF's.  The EVGA does.  If you look at the pic it shows mounting holes for both 1156 and 775 HSF's.<br><small>--<br>Chuck<br><br>I reject your reality and substitute my own</small><div class="borderless"><TABLE WIDTH=95% align=center border=0 CELLPADDING=4"><TR><TD ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#FFFFFF nwrap COLSPAN=3 WIDTH=100%><A HREF="/speak/slideshow/23268310?c=1484775&ret=L2ZvcnVtL3IyMzI1OTgzNS54bWw%3D"><IMG TITLE="115595 bytes" BORDER=0 WIDTH=550 HEIGHT=384 SRC="/r0/download/1484775~79a0dbf028c81f100bc74a3323b79b0b/ep55dualpllaS.jpg"></A></TD></TABLE></div>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:44:56 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[beerbum posted : this is my method of applying AS5 on a multi-core CPU<br><br>first of course is cleaning the CPU heatspreader with denatured alcohol<br><br>second I apply a very very thin coating of AS 5 covering the entire heatspreader. think thin to the point you can almost see through it.. it's done with a razor blade and it takes some practice..<br><br>third I apply the AS 5 in a cross pattern, making sure the bead is very thin. each line would be about 3/4 the length of the heat spreader, centered of course..<br><br>lastly, prior to installing the heatsink, clean that too with alcohol, and with a very soft cloth polishing the contact to a mirror finish (or as close to one as possible depending on the h/s)..<br><br>this has not failed me with dual core and quad core CPU's.. I currently have a Q6700 quad core overclocked to 3.4GHz.. these are my temps:<br><br>[att=1]<br><br>IMO with the "hot" core at 30C idle and 53C under load is not bad at all with air cooling  - using this cooler: &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835200026" >www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a&middot;&middot;&middot;35200026</A> which I think I paid $25 for..<br><br>Next week I'm upgrading to a Core i7 system, I plan to use the same method with that as well, so will post those results once done..<div class="borderless"><TABLE WIDTH=95% align=center border=0 CELLPADDING=4"><TR><TD ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#FFFFFF nwrap COLSPAN=2 WIDTH=66%><A HREF="/speak/slideshow/23268189?c=1484764&ret=L2ZvcnVtL3IyMzI1OTgzNS54bWw%3D"><IMG TITLE="7457 bytes" BORDER=0 WIDTH=302 HEIGHT=120 SRC="/r0/download/1484764~e368188e677e23a023be45d2fa309703/cputemps.jpg"></A></TD></TABLE></div>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:15:04 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[kingdome74 posted : Mobo:  <br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128401" >www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a&middot;&middot;&middot;13128401</A><br><br>It's a matter of trust. I've never had any problems with stock coolers in the past but I think these Intel ones they been using on the multi-cores are pretty shabby. Like I said in my first and second post I always use AS5 and have never used anything else and I think 44-46C is fine. Just any of you builders out there that decide to use this CPU beware that Arctic Silver's instructions are contradictory.<br><small>--<br><br>The way things are going for obama a second carter term might be his best case scenario.<br></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 09:00:38 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[PeteC2 posted : If you are finicky about thermal management I guess the true answer would be "yes" use a better compound such as AS5, properly applied.<br><br>However, if you are not OC'ing, there really is nothing intrinsically "wrong" with the stock HSF and supplied/applied compound.  Keep in mind that this was developed and tested extensively to work with the CPU.  Yes, it is meant to be a cost-effective HSF, but at the same time, Intel is not in the business of shooting themselves in the foot, by coupling a cpu with an inadequate cooling solution!<br><br>Remember, the <i>vast majority</i> of their cpus will never see anything but the stock HSF and attached thermal compound...for well over 95% of these cpus, there will be no other solution for the life of the unit!<br><br>IMHO, if you are not OC'ing, then the stock solution is quite sufficient.<br><small>--<br>Deeds, not words</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:38:21 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Alakar posted : FrozenCPU has quite a few heatsink's listed that will fit that socket. I'm partial to Thermalright heatsinks. High quality and good performance.<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l3/g48/c369/s1037/list/p1/CPU_Heatsinks-CPU_Heatsinks_-_Socket-Socket_LGA_1156-Page1.html" >www.frozencpu.com/cat/l3/g48/c36&middot;&middot;&middot;ge1.html</A><br><small>--<br>"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom; it is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." William Pitt the Younger</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 02:54:07 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : I don't think 44-46C is a problem.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 02:12:34 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Ray422 posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/757727" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=757727');">Red Green</a>:</small><br><br>Some of the 1156 boards allow you to use LGA775 CPU HSFs'.  </div>How can you tell without a physical fit ?<br><br>More specifically, will an LGA775 fit this Gigabyte p55-ud3r?<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128401" >www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a&middot;&middot;&middot;13128401</A><br><small>--<br>Things I like - <A HREF="http://www.dslreports.com/forum/disco">Team Discovery</a> - Quads&copy;3.3 to 4.0ghz - Strawberry Ice cream<br><br></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 01:30:12 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Red Green posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/607335" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=607335');">kingdome74</a>:</small><br><br>... any recommendations for an i5 heatsink? I don't trust this and want to reseat it with a good one. I've never bought an after market one before and size shouldn't be an issue (I have a full size case) but I don't have unlimited funds.<br> </div>What mobo are you using?  Some of the 1156 boards allow you to use LGA775 CPU HSFs'.  I'm thinking of building another system using the EVGA P55 FTW mobo.<br><small>--<br>Chuck<br><br>I reject your reality and substitute my own</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:49:19 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Loose Wire posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/607335" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=607335');">kingdome74</a>:</small><br><br>... any recommendations for an i5 heatsink? <br> </div>Not many out there yet for the i5.  Lot of users are on this one with good results:<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065" >www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a&middot;&middot;&middot;35103065</A><br><br>I just ordered two this morning from Amazon.  $25 delivered each.  But, they won't be in stock for a couple weeks.  But I am in no hurry.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[kingdome74 posted : I resat the heatsink and turned the paste around and now I'm running 44-46C on all four cores so I'm thinking I probably didn't get the H/S sat right the cheap pieces of sh...<br><br>... any recommendations for an i5 heatsink? I don't trust this and want to reseat it with a good one. I've never bought an after market one before and size shouldn't be an issue (I have a full size case) but I don't have unlimited funds.<br><small>--<br><br>The way things are going for obama a second carter term might be his best case scenario.<br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[kingdome74 posted : Well, I cleared the grease and applied AS5 like the instructions said knowing that the instructions for my CPU should follow the i7 and not i5 because of the notch alignment and my core temps are all pegged at 85-89C which is utterly unacceptable. I cleared the CMOS settings, used Optimized Default in the BIOS (like the manual said), and I'm still pegging. What other option do I have except removing the H/S and applying the AS5 in the manner shown for i5's but against the illustrations for the notches? <br><small>--<br><br>The way things are going for obama a second carter term might be his best case scenario.<br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[koitsu posted : My rule of thumb:<br><br>I use AS5 in situations where there's little to no risk of the grease (since it's capacitive, unlike the generic "white thermal paste" you've seen elsewhere; I don't want to risk shorts).  Mostly I use it on CPUs.<br><br>Otherwise I use Arctic Silver Ceramique, mostly on GPUs and chipsets.  If I have any doubts using AS5, I choose Ceramique.<br><br>I haven't tried Arctic Alumina.<br><small>--<br>Making life hard for others since 1977.<br>I speak for myself and not my employer/affiliates of my employer.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[kingdome74 posted : I was using the word AS used to use on the old P4's. <br><br>BTW - anyone using AS5 on this particular CPU should be aware that you apply the grease using the i7 instructions NOT the i5. If you notice the notches on the core are aligned in the i7 fashion not the i5 even though it is, in fact, an i5. <br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.arcticsilver.com/ins_route_step2intelas5.html" >www.arcticsilver.com/ins_route_s&middot;&middot;&middot;as5.html</A><br><br>If you applied the grease in the i5 fashion one would conclude you would probably not experience the best cooling.<br><small>--<br><br>The way things are going for obama a second carter term might be his best case scenario.<br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[CCat posted : If you're not OC'ing the stock thermal compound should be OK.<br>I would (personally) use the AS5.<br>FYI...You dont <b>Scrape</b> the compound off.<br>Use 90% Iso Alchol to clean it and a soft lint free rag or coffee filters work well also.<br><small>--<br><b><i>Te audire non possum. Musa sapientum fixa est in aure! </i></b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[kingdome74 posted : I'm getting ready to install:<br><br>Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115215" >www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a&middot;&middot;&middot;19115215</A><br><br>In the past I have always scraped off the grease that comes with a stock heatsink and used AS5. My question is - I don't OC so is the stock grease they use now OK for installation or should I continue to use AS5? <br><small>--<br><br>The way things are going for obama a second carter term might be his best case scenario.<br></small>]]></description>
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