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Chaldo

join:2008-03-18
West Bloomfield, MI

Then why are we still in this situation?

Look at countries in EURO they all run GSM networks, UMTS HSPA and don't have issues in high populated areas with smart phones more advanced then once's we have been seeing. They have no issue at all. Why AT&T?


en102
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join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA

They bought separate spectrum for 3G, and didn't attempt to recycle spectrum as AT&T has been doing.
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fAcEtIOUs
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reply to Chaldo

said by Chaldo:

Look at countries in EURO they all run GSM networks, UMTS HSPA and don't have issues in high populated areas with smart phones more advanced then once's we have been seeing. They have no issue at all. Why AT&T?
And you know that how?

Chaldo

join:2008-03-18
West Bloomfield, MI

reply to fAcEtIOUs

Re: Then why are we still in this situation?

My cousin took my Blackberry to travel all around Euro and he has had no issues what so ever in countries he was in, he said they had way cooler phones, and his speeds were always fine, signal almost everywhere great call quality. Then here comes AT&T.. I have there wireless service, I have rarely no issues, but I am sick of hearing the complaints.


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said by Chaldo:

My cousin took my Blackberry to travel all around Euro and he has had no issues what so ever in countries he was in, he said they had way cooler phones, and his speeds were always fine, signal almost everywhere great call quality. Then here comes AT&T.. I have there wireless service, I have rarely no issues, but I am sick of hearing the complaints.
A sample of 1 doesn't make a valid statistical comparison of service in the EU and the US.
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Chaldo

join:2008-03-18
West Bloomfield, MI

That's just my cousin, I have a lot of people that live in EU and say they have this carrier, don't have problems there network is a lot faster then the ones here right now. I just heard great things about there GSM networks, and look here what AT&T gets criticized for, it pisses me off and I am still a 10+ year customer of them. My dad just went to NY 4 weeks ago he got so many call failed messages on his phone he couldn't stand it he almost switched to Verizon when he got back, but I don't want him too I can't stand Verizon. This is just my 2 cents.



fAcEtIOUs
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said by Chaldo:

That's just my cousin, I have a lot of people that live in EU and say they have this carrier, don't have problems there network is a lot faster then the ones here right now. I just heard great things about there GSM networks, and look here what AT&T gets criticized for, it pisses me off and I am still a 10+ year customer of them. My dad just went to NY 4 weeks ago he got so many call failed messages on his phone he couldn't stand it he almost switched to Verizon when he got back, but I don't want him too I can't stand Verizon. This is just my 2 cents.
I don't dispute at all your contention that AT&T has MANY problems with service in parts of the US. I just doubt that cell phone coverage in some parts of the EU are not as bad(like Poland, Romania, etc.).
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cmaenginsb
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You'd be surprised, I spend a lot of time in Ukraine, in major metro areas wireless is excellent (and they are poorer and less developed than Poland or Romania)
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reply to fAcEtIOUs
I'll make it a sample of 2.

Took my iPhone to Sydney, Australia. Unlocked it and put a Telstra SIM in it. I was really impressed by the coverage. I rarely ever saw less than full strength, both inside and outside of the city.

Their customer website really sucked, though.
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wierdo

join:2001-02-16
Tulsa, OK
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reply to en102

said by en102:

They bought separate spectrum for 3G, and didn't attempt to recycle spectrum as AT&T has been doing.
That might have something to do with the regulatory agencies in most of the rest of the world allocating a new band in a reasonable timeframe. The AWS auction didn't happen until long after the US carriers had begun their 3G rollouts. And there still are very few AWS-capable devices.

This is one thing you can't blame at&t for. You can blame them for their pricing, and even their network performance, but you can't blame them for the FCC's decisions. (To some degree you can't even blame the FCC..half of our problem in this country with spectrum harmonization is the military)
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join:2003-02-18
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reply to fAcEtIOUs

said by fAcEtIOUs:

said by Chaldo:

Look at countries in EURO they all run GSM networks, UMTS HSPA and don't have issues in high populated areas with smart phones more advanced then once's we have been seeing. They have no issue at all. Why AT&T?
And you know that how?
Let's turn that around upon yourself now; how many people do you know that have problems in Europe? Have you ever read a single story about people complaining that O2, Vodaphone, T-Mobile (Germany) drops calls constantly, has data that immediately slows to a grind whenever more than 12 people are in a convention center, and generally is all over the place? Because if you have, enlighten me with links. My entire family lives over there, and frankly, they laugh at how pitiful the situation is here in the states.

Let's face it, Europe is years ahead of us when it comes to 3G/HSPA/HSPA+ roll outs. It's almost embarrassing how completely sub par GSM rollouts are (T-Mobile just lit up its 3G network, which is the smallest in the US. AT&T is... AT&T), and CDMA is a dead end bag-of-hurt (I'm glad I jumped ship; being constantly plagued by missing calls when my phone's slot cycle index wasn't set quick enough to poll the 1xRTT network during a data transaction, endless supplies of duplicate SMSes, I could go on and on).

So yeah, Europe has managed to do a pretty good job. But keep in mind, Europe is very urbanized and relatively small in size compared to the relatively huge size of the US. Obviously rolling out lot of 3G GSM-camp coverage is going to take a while. The inexcusable part here is that AT&T is rolling in subscription fees and failing it hard at keeping data flowing for customers.
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ohreilly

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reply to Chaldo

said by Chaldo:

signal almost everywhere great call quality.
I live in a fairly rural county in the UK, but there most definitely isn't 3G coverage everywhere - it is very very splotchy.

GSM coverage on the other hand is pretty top-notch. Shame about GPRS (EDGE is only supported by a couple of networks, only one has a rollout worth talking about) though.


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said by djrobx:

I'll make it a sample of 2.

Took my iPhone to Sydney, Australia. Unlocked it and put a Telstra SIM in it. I was really impressed by the coverage. I rarely ever saw less than full strength, both inside and outside of the city.

Their customer website really sucked, though.
Vodafone on the other hand is a clusterfuck down in Sydney, their CS is off on weekends.
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