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funchords
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What's going on when you have 8000 ms. pings+zero drops?

See the output in the thread that started it all is here: »www.postel.org/pipermail/end2end···tml#7742 and the rabble-rouser is David P. Reed (a deeply respected network God).

$ ping lcs.mit.edu
PING lcs.mit.edu (128.30.2.121) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from zermatt.csail.mit.edu (128.30.2.121): icmp_seq=1 ttl=44 
time=6330 ms
64 bytes from zermatt.csail.mit.edu (128.30.2.121): icmp_seq=2 ttl=44 
time=6005 ms
64 bytes from zermatt.csail.mit.edu (128.30.2.121): icmp_seq=3 ttl=44 
time=8509 ms
64 bytes from zermatt.csail.mit.edu (128.30.2.121): icmp_seq=4 ttl=44 
time=9310 ms
64 bytes from zermatt.csail.mit.edu (128.30.2.121): icmp_seq=5 ttl=44 
time=8586 ms
64 bytes from zermatt.csail.mit.edu (128.30.2.121): icmp_seq=6 ttl=44 
time=7765 ms
64 bytes from zermatt.csail.mit.edu (128.30.2.121): icmp_seq=7 ttl=44 
time=7168 ms
64 bytes from zermatt.csail.mit.edu (128.30.2.121): icmp_seq=8 ttl=44 
time=10261 ms
64 bytes from zermatt.csail.mit.edu (128.30.2.121): icmp_seq=9 ttl=44 
time=10624 ms
64 bytes from zermatt.csail.mit.edu (128.30.2.121): icmp_seq=10 ttl=44 
time=9625 ms
64 bytes from zermatt.csail.mit.edu (128.30.2.121): icmp_seq=11 ttl=44 
time=9725 ms
64 bytes from zermatt.csail.mit.edu (128.30.2.121): icmp_seq=12 ttl=44 
time=8725 ms
64 bytes from zermatt.csail.mit.edu (128.30.2.121): icmp_seq=13 ttl=44 
time=9306 ms
64 bytes from zermatt.csail.mit.edu (128.30.2.121): icmp_seq=14 ttl=44 
time=8306 ms
 

It's interesting -- there's 10 seconds of RTT delay yet not one dropped packet.

Please read the thread for a long list of possible explanations, much too much to sum up here.

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AT&T, your packet, Delivered:
time=9300ms
AT&T, your packet, Delivered:
time=9320ms
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reply to funchords
That is some terrible lag you have in DC. Maybe you should move out into the hinterlands.

Here is a ping to the same host from a bluetooth connection to my cell phone (connected to an AT&T WCDMA 3G tower):

Pinging lcs.mit.edu [128.30.2.121] with 32 bytes of data:
 
Reply from 128.30.2.121:  bytes=32  time=1391ms  TTL=40
Reply from 128.30.2.121:  bytes=32  time=276ms  TTL=40
Reply from 128.30.2.121:  bytes=32  time=530ms  TTL=40
Reply from 128.30.2.121:  bytes=32  time=203ms  TTL=40
Reply from 128.30.2.121:  bytes=32  time=178ms  TTL=40
Reply from 128.30.2.121:  bytes=32  time=268ms  TTL=40
Reply from 128.30.2.121:  bytes=32  time=212ms  TTL=40
Reply from 128.30.2.121:  bytes=32  time=180ms  TTL=40
Reply from 128.30.2.121:  bytes=32  time=189ms  TTL=40
Reply from 128.30.2.121:  bytes=32  time=200ms  TTL=40
 
Ping statistics:
Packets: Sent = 10, Received = 10, Lost = 0 (0% loss)
Minimum =  178ms,  Maximum =  1391ms,  Average =  362ms
 
 

Certainly not as good as my DSL connection, but no 8-10 second delays either.

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funchords
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actually, the output in my post was from David Reed in Chicago.



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reply to funchords
I still tend to lend the data credence myself.

As soon as I read "bimodal distribution" I thought "A-Ha! Finally someone who sees the same thing I do!"

Honestly, half the time I see either something between 2-8 seconds, or the (as expected) ~200ms latency.

Something is definitely wonky.
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