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1 edit | CRTC finds that Globalive does not meet Canadian ownership CRTC finds that Globalive does not meet Canadian ownership rules
OTTAWA-GATINEAU, October 29, 2009 The Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission today determined that Globalive Wireless Management (Globalive) does not meet the Canadian ownership requirements set out in the Telecommunications Act. Under the legislation, a telecommunications company is only eligible to operate in Canada if it is not at any time owned and controlled, in law and in fact, by non-Canadians.
During its proceeding, the Commission examined the influence of Orascom Telecom Holding (Orascom) over Globalives business decisions and day-to-day operations. Despite the fact that Globalive made significant structural changes to reduce its dependence on Orascom, there were other factors that, taken together, led the Commission to conclude that Globalive does not meet the statutory test.
The Commission found it particularly important that Orascom owns 65.1 per cent of the equity, has entered into a strategic technical arrangement with Globalive, controls and holds the Wind brand under which Globalive will operate, and holds the overwhelming majority of the outstanding debt.
Globalive is a new company seeking to enter the Canadian wireless market. The Commission focused on the set up and operations of Globalive in the context of a company rolling out a national wireless network. In its decision, the Commission identified the areas that need to be addressed in order for Globalive to meet the Telecommunications Acts Canadian ownership requirements.
Todays decision follows a public process that included a public hearing, which was held on September 23, September 24 and October 1, 2009. Telecom Decision CRTC 2009-678 The CRTC
The CRTC is an independent public authority that regulates and supervises broadcasting and telecommunications in Canada.
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 Robrr join:2008-04-19 Mississauga, ON | Let the fire storm begin.
I expect a HUGE uprising against this decision. Consumers everywhere are going to be pissed. |
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 | reply to Robrr Oh, how the sh*t is gonna hit the fan now. One branch of the Canadian government already approved of the deal, and now another shuts them down. We are so sued. Thanks, CRTC. |
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 1 edit | reply to Robrr doesn't matter, globallive appeals to cabinet and the outcome is pretty much certain the only harm done is further delays in going live |
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 Robrr join:2008-04-19 Mississauga, ON 1 edit | It does matter, this is the kind of decision that we needed to have the dissolve the CRTC petition get some legs.
Consumers aren`t going to be happy. |
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 | reply to jam_bongo said by jam_bongo:doesn't matter, globallive appeals to cabinet and the outcome is pretty much certain the only harm done is further delays in going live Those further delays in going live will cause Globalive to miss the Christmas launch window and lose millions in potential sales. If they don't just pull out now entirely... |
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| said by Abattoir:said by jam_bongo:doesn't matter, globallive appeals to cabinet and the outcome is pretty much certain the only harm done is further delays in going live Those further delays in going live will cause Globalive to miss the Christmas launch window and lose millions in potential sales. If they don't just pull out now entirely... Which is what Robbers et al wanted in the first place.
There was a story on Slashdot about a Minnesota city that asked the incumbent telco to build out Fibre, they refused, so the citizens had a referendum that had the city do it. The telco sued, but they city kept winning the court rulings, in the interim the Telco rolled out Fibre, then patted themselves on the back for being so great. -- Jake: "Four fried chickens, and a coke" Elwood: "And some dry white toast, pleas |
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 Celery join:2004-01-19 St Catharines, ON 1 edit | reply to Robrr Is it surprising CRTC ruled against them, when Industry Canada approved it? |
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 mazhurgPremium join:2004-05-02 Portage La Prairie, MB 1 edit | And why would you think it surprising that the telecommunication incumbants mouthpiece CRTC would rule for new competition? -- "Vision without funds.... is a hallucination" |
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 1 edit | reply to Robrr If Peladeau was smarter he would have made an agreement with Globalive for x% in the company and used them for his out of province roaming. |
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 | reply to Robrr and? whats the point here?
I see nothing news worthy from this independent public authority.
Same old.
Bell, Rogers and Telus just bought the Christmas cell phone rush that will happen in less than 2 months. That's all. Nothing new. Nothing unexpected.
The news will be Bell & Rogers buying the "new entrant only" spectrum when it happens thus locking their monopoly grip even more tightly.
*shrug* |
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 | reply to Robrr Ruling seems to be here: »www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2009/2009-678.htm |
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| reply to Robrr "The CRTC is an independent public authority that regulates and supervises broadcasting and telecommunications in Canada."
I think this is the funniest part of the decision.  |
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 GuspazGuspazPremium,MVM join:2001-11-05 Montreal, QC kudos:15 | reply to shrug Ultimately, Industry Canada controls the spectrum. The CRTC can prevent Globalive from launching, but they have zero say over what happens to the spectrum.
Hopefully Industry Canada will see this as the CRTC trying to usurp their authority. |
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 2 edits | reply to Robrr at any rate I am hoping cabinet isn't as stupid as the CRTC (presumably globallive will appeal to cabinet) has been with this decision. This not only affects their potential holiday sales, but hundreds of jobs are also at stake here (some of which are in conservative held ridings like peterborough) not to mention all the contracts that have been handed out to companies tasked with setting up the infrastructure |
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 GuspazGuspazPremium,MVM join:2001-11-05 Montreal, QC kudos:15 | reply to Robrr Heck, Globalive has already started building their retail stores... |
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 1 edit | how is this different than rogers getting at&t backing and fido getting t-mobile backing way back when?
it seems to me you need a big partner to help small start ups off the ground |
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 | reply to Robrr This is why all the foreign ownership rules need to be changed. You can't own tons of different things here if you're foreign. But of course, the GoC will finance some other company to pick nortel apart, without offering the company a lifeline earlier. Sigh. |
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| reply to jam_bongo said by jam_bongo:how is this different than rogers getting at&t backing and fido getting t-mobile backing way back when? it seems to me you need a big partner to help small start ups off the ground This time they had too much foreign control.
I believe foreign control can't be over 47%. |
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 TA63ST215WPremium,MVM join:2000-11-23 there kudos:2 | reply to Thane_Bitter said by Thane_Bitter:"The CRTC is an independent public authority that regulates and supervises suppresses broadcasting and telecommunications in Canada."
I think this is the funniest part of the decision. They misspelled "suppresses." -- Striving for Parfection. |
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