john150
join:2000-12-29
Valley Cottage, NY | [iO] HD With Just Coaxial??
I've gotten mixed answers on this. Looking to clear it up once and for all. Can you get High Definition (720p or 1080i) using an HDTV and just a coaxial cable from CV going directly into the TV (no box)? |
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IllIlIlllIll
EliteData
Premium
join:2003-07-06
Lindenhurst, NY | if the tv supports QAM tuning.
but you wont get that many more channels than the standard ones you can recieve over the air.
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posting
@cablevision.com | reply to john150
Look into getting a cablecard if you TV supports it. |
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john150
join:2000-12-29
Valley Cottage, NY
2 edits | reply to IllIlIlllIll
said by IllIlIlllIll  :if the tv supports QAM tuning. but you wont get that many more channels than the standard ones you can recieve over the air. I can get most of the Family Cable package with no box. So, with a HDTV/QAM tuner wouldn't I get any HD offerings that are in that package using just a coaxial to the HDTV? |
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RickNY
Premium
join:2000-11-02
Manorville, NY
1 edit | said by john150 :I can get most of the Family Cable package with no box. So, with a HDTV/QAM tuner wouldn't I get any HD offerings that are in that package using just a coaxial to the HDTV? No -- all of the digital channels in the Family package are encrypted. With a HD QAM tuner you will only receive Broadcast Basic Analogs & Digitals (SD & HD) and Family Cable analogs. To get digital family and above you need a CableCARD or a box. |
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kickass69
join:2002-06-03
Lake Hopatcong, NJ
| I would still love to get IO Gold or any channel I pay for with my QAM tuner on my HDTV and get rid of the clunky boxes, but we all know they want the box revenue and get rid of traps altogether. Would save a bit of money and time with the 80s/early 90s IPG. Nothing new though. |
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Bobcat
Premium
join:2001-02-04
Bedminster, NJ | reply to john150
You would only get a few HD channels: 2,4,5,7,9,11,13. |
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kjharris
@optonline.net
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I can verify that if you buy a new TV(with the typical ATSC/QAM tuner), you will get HD channels in the 2--13 range. Just tried it using my Panasonic flatscreen that's a year and a half old. Disconnected the box, ran the coax directly into the TV, went into setup and scanned for channels. You will get those channels (plus their subchannels for some but not all). For example: CH 4(WNBC) and Ch 4.1(WNBC HD), CH 7(WABC) and CH 7.1(WABC HD) are among those I can get. Exactly what you get may depend on where you live and what company provides your cable service. |
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RickNY
Premium
join:2000-11-02
Manorville, NY
| reply to kickass69
said by kickass69 :I would still love to get IO Gold or any channel I pay for with my QAM tuner on my HDTV and get rid of the clunky boxes, but we all know they want the box revenue and get rid of traps altogether Get a CableCARD equipped TV and that problem is solved. |
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kickass69
join:2002-06-03
Lake Hopatcong, NJ
1 edit | Not all of us have money lying around to track down the few HDTVs that exist with CableCards nowadays...especially in this Great Depression of the 21st century. If they were more available I would've already gone that route by now and saved myself the hassle from the slow boxes and rental/remote fees. |
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john150
join:2000-12-29
Valley Cottage, NY
| reply to kjharris
said by kjharris :
You will get those channels (plus their subchannels for some but not all). For example: CH 4(WNBC) and Ch 4.1(WNBC HD), CH 7(WABC) and CH 7.1(WABC HD) are among those I can get. Exactly what you get may depend on where you live and what company provides your cable service.
Cablevision is my provider. How are the HD channels numbered? Are they 4.1, 7.1 or 704, 707 like the box or something else? |
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xirian
Premium
join:2003-01-26
Beacon, NY
| said by john150 :said by kjharris :
You will get those channels (plus their subchannels for some but not all). For example: CH 4(WNBC) and Ch 4.1(WNBC HD), CH 7(WABC) and CH 7.1(WABC HD) are among those I can get. Exactly what you get may depend on where you live and what company provides your cable service.
Cablevision is my provider. How are the HD channels numbered? Are they 4.1, 7.1 or 704, 707 like the box or something else? they will appear as 4.1, 7.1, etc unless you use a box. The box just maps them to different numbers. |
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RickNY
Premium
join:2000-11-02
Manorville, NY
| reply to kickass69
said by kickass69 :Not all of us have money lying around to track down the few HDTVs that exist with CableCards nowadays...especially in this Great Depression of the 21st century. The "Great Depression" that you speak of can't be hurting too much if you manage to pay for iO Gold every month. |
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Bobcat
Premium
join:2001-02-04
Bedminster, NJ | reply to RickNY
Is there a monthly fee for using CableCARDs? |
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gtaylor0
join:2003-10-29
Westport, CT
1 edit | $2.00 per month, although I think it's going up something like .20 cents come January. (And my channel numbers are "normal" on the TV I use with Cablecard.) |
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Tyler09
@optonline.net
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said by RickNY :Get a CableCARD equipped TV and that problem is solved. Would a CableCARD equipped HDTV need a tuning adapter to tune SDV channels?
And do tuning adapters even work with HDTV's, or just with Tivo's? |
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Thinkdiff
Premium,MVM
join:2001-08-07
Bronx, NY | The Tuning adapter currently only works with TiVos. I think the Moxi DVR is also working on drivers to use it.
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RickNY
Premium
join:2000-11-02
Manorville, NY
| reply to Tyler09
said by Tyler09 :said by RickNY :Get a CableCARD equipped TV and that problem is solved. Would a CableCARD equipped HDTV need a tuning adapter to tune SDV channels? And do tuning adapters even work with HDTV's, or just with Tivo's? Oh yeah -- forgot about that little SDV issue on the premium channels.. Sorry. |
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rv65
Rally racing is real racing
Premium
join:2008-08-02
San Diego, CA | reply to Thinkdiff
The Moxi DVR already supports the Tuning adapter with the latest firmware. |
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john150
join:2000-12-29
Valley Cottage, NY
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OK...This link at the CV website says you need an HD box and not just a QAM tuner for the HD channels on Broadcast Basic. Is it incorrect?
»www.optimum.com/package_list.jsp···kgType=0
See notes at bottom. |
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