| Regulation Most countries have this kind of regulation. The US is the worst for it, anything that is not "made in America" and so on is hated. Are there any foreign-owned phone companies in the US? Think about it.
And what about all the "buy American" provisions in the stimulus?
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Are there any foreign-owned phone companies in the US? Think about it.
T-Mobile? Largely owned by Duetche (sp?) Telecom...
Verizon Wireless...Isnt one of the major owners some French company..starts with a "V" I think.
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If you are going to whine about protectionism, look in your own back yard! Nobody was saying otherwise. I wish airlines like KLM could come in and compete in our air travel sector...you'd see huge improvements. |
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Yes the US does have carriers that are partially foreign owned. T-Mobile is a subsidiary of a German based company and Verizon Wireless is a joint venture between Vodafone and Verizon Communications. |
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Sorry to disillusion you, but most of the US is foreign owned already.
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said by Luongo :
Are there any foreign-owned phone companies in the US? Think about it.
Ever hear of T-Mobile 100% owned by Deutche Telekom of Germany.
And Verizon Wireless is 45% owned by Vodaphone of the UK.
And don't kid yourself about Canada. The majority are moderately xenophobic and have rules in many industries that discourage or prohibit foreign ownership. Visit the Canada forum and Canpol forums sometimes to see how people feel there about foreign ownership of Canadian based assets. So, even with the lure of a more competitive marketplace, many(if not a majority) of Canadians would back the CRTC ruling out of patriotic fervor.
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said by Luongo :
Most countries have this kind of regulation. The US is the worst for it, anything that is not "made in America" and so on is hated. Are there any foreign-owned phone companies in the US? Think about it.
And what about all the "buy American" provisions in the stimulus?
If you are going to whine about protectionism, look in your own back yard!
T-Mobile is owned by Deutsche Telekom.
So yes, there ARE FOREIGN-OWNED phone companies sin the U.S.
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said by Luongo :
Most countries have this kind of regulation. The US is the worst for it, anything that is not "made in America" and so on is hated. Are there any foreign-owned phone companies in the US? Think about it.
And what about all the "buy American" provisions in the stimulus?
If you are going to whine about protectionism, look in your own back yard!
IMO, in America we are quite the opposite. We are not protectionist enough, which is why when the dollar falls, the Europeans and Arabs buy up everything.
As for the stimulus, yes it should be buy American, because it's taxpayer dollars. |
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see how you feel about cell phones in Canada after you get the bill. I could give a rats ass who owns the company. Just give me a bill that is under 50$ a month and some good rates on data. |
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said by Luongo :
Most countries have this kind of regulation. The US is the worst for it, anything that is not "made in America" and so on is hated. Are there any foreign-owned phone companies in the US? Think about it.
And what about all the "buy American" provisions in the stimulus?
If you are going to whine about protectionism, look in your own back yard!
Why shouldn't we use our tax payer dollars to fund local industries?
The sense of entitlement you exhibit is absolutely amazing.
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said by Rob:said by Luongo :
Most countries have this kind of regulation. The US is the worst for it, anything that is not "made in America" and so on is hated. Are there any foreign-owned phone companies in the US? Think about it.
And what about all the "buy American" provisions in the stimulus?
If you are going to whine about protectionism, look in your own back yard!
T-Mobile is owned by Deutsche Telekom. So yes, there ARE FOREIGN-OWNED phone companies sin the U.S. Not that many years ago, a good majority of the high-tech industry in the US had UK ownership, partial at least...
I'm afraid the days of corporate protectionism in the US in long over. Most of the sheep in the US just don't know it.
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Well I may not be a member of the CanPol forums but I would strongly disagree.
Most Canadians have been howling to end the CRTC's CanCon and foreign ownership rules in the Telecom sector for years.
The only thing these rules have managed to do is create cancerous homegrown monopolies who will stifle innovation for years to come even after these rules are finally struck down.
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said by Linklist:[And don't kid yourself about Canada. The majority are moderately xenophobic and have rules in many industries that discourage or prohibit foreign ownership. Not wanting American ownership of Canadian assets hardly qualifies as xenophobia. Whenever you give Americans anything they just take take take.
Ask any other country they've done business with.
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kudos:3 | said by El Quintron:said by Linklist:[And don't kid yourself about Canada. The majority are moderately xenophobic and have rules in many industries that discourage or prohibit foreign ownership. Not wanting American ownership of Canadian assets hardly qualifies as xenophobia. Whenever you give Americans anything they just take take take. Ask any other country they've done business with. China? Japan? The EU? I'm not sure any would back up your claim, because it isn't true.
It's more like foreign countries want the U.S. to give give give and we do.
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| Kinda like you get our water and hydro at a discount?
And when the blackout happened your news media had the nerve to blame the problem on Canada when it actually originated in Ohio.
What I'm saying (to TK) is this:
The notion that politically mouthy Canadians don't want foreign investment is bullshit at best and slanderous at worst. What they don't want is hollowing out of nationally vital industries, especially not having yet more Canadian dollars flow into the US.
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Vodafone, they're a British company... (well, based in Britain, but they're all over the world- second-largest mobile phone company behind China Mobile, and they own 2% of that IIRC) Plus, before the joint-venture VZW was created, they were called Vodafone AirTouch and owned 100% of AirTouch Wireless.
Though, I have to admit I think an Egyptian company like Orascom would get more suspicion in the US too than a Western European company would. |
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said by El Quintron:Kinda like you get our water and hydro at a discount? And when the blackout happened your news media had the nerve to blame the problem on Canada when it actually originated in Ohio. What I'm saying (to TK) is this: The notion that politically mouthy Canadians don't want foreign investment is bullshit at best and slanderous at worst. What they don't want is hollowing out of nationally vital industries, especially not having yet more Canadian dollars flow into the US. It sounds like your issue is with your own government and not the United States.
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kudos:3 | said by El Quintron:No my issue was with the "majority" of Canadians being Xenophobic. I didn't say that.
My issue is with the constant insults of America by foreigners who think they are better than the U.S. (talk about arrogance) but have the audacity to say that Americans think we're better than anyone.
P.S. in FL we don't buy your water or hydro 
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| No you didn't but TK did... that's where the original rant came from.
It's true, Florida doesn't buy Canadian water, US water bottlers do, and the Estern seabord gets our hydro or what not...
Unfortunately you guys do get our worst export: Snowbirds!
My apologies.
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