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(Doesn't work so well with a couple of laptops, though)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Rant-New-Laptop-Displays-23786155 Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:02:30 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Rant-New-Laptop-Displays-23784540
It's nice to have at least 1000 vertical pixels, so for example at 19" 1280x1024 is preferred over 1440x900. At 22" and above though you've got 1680x1050, 1920x1200 (I like at this 24") and up.

My laptop screen though, I'd rather have more vertical room than 1280x800 provides. There isn't really a common 4:3 resolution in this ~1MP range anyways though (never seen an 1152x864 LCD), and the widescreen format is more compatible with keyboard shape (ie. keyboards are long not tall). For the latter reason I'll give up on a 4:3 laptop and just get something a bit bigger with at least 1080p next time.

Another good use for 4:3 screen is dual-monitor setups. I've got 2 1600x1200 Dell's here at work, and it's pretty slick. I love my 24" 1920x1200 at home, but two widescreens side by side and I might sprain my neck turning my head to look around.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Rant-New-Laptop-Displays-23784540 Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:37:24 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Rant-New-Laptop-Displays-23784260
When I visit my parents, my moms desktop has a 4:3 LCD, also 20 inch, and it's great!
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If we didn't have the past generation switch to buying cheap Asian(China, Korea specifically) import parts just to get something a bit cheaper, we might have better choices in many consumer electronics now and a better economy. Bad news for you...the quality stuff is Asian too and has been for quite a while.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Rant-New-Laptop-Displays-23778679 Tue, 09 Feb 2010 14:52:57 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Rant-New-Laptop-Displays-23776856 --
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My gripe with all the new laptop displays is that they're all low resolution now. It seems in the mid 2000s, Sony hit the pinnacle with a 1600x1200 display (which to me, feels cramped, being used to 2560x1600 on my workstations), and after that, they rolled back to unusable coarse pixel density displays. Where are all the high quality LCDs for laptops now? I haven't seen one I'd buy since the Sony GRX560, which I still prefer over these newfangled screens. Sure, the aspect of the new ones is nice, but not at half the resolution of my old 4:3 display.
There are some laptops with quite dense displays. I've seen a few 15.4 and 17" laptops with 1920x1200 displays though those are mainly gaming units which can be configured with to be used as a work station. I believe Sager makes them which makes some nice laptops. Some 16:9 laptops can be ordered with a 1080p screen :). Hope this helps.
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16:10 would be useless for TVs because most programming is 16:9 format. But if it's a 4:3 source, the image is bigger on a 16:10 display than on a 16:9 display.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Rant-New-Laptop-Displays-23336888 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:45:51 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Rant-New-Laptop-Displays-23326533 said by Anonymous_:

i am running a CRT at 1650 x 1050i @29Hz text is crappy

i am trying to Force 60hz mode
29 Hz on a CRT for computer work??? The flicker must be horrible, especially being out of sync with 60Hz powered light sources.

Even at 60Hz the flicker would be unbearable for me, it used to make me nauseous if there were florescent lights in the room. For me 72Hz on a CRT is minimum and 120 Hz is what I liked.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Rant-New-Laptop-Displays-23326533 Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:12:28 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Rant-New-Laptop-Displays-23326016 --
"All your base are belong to me!"]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Rant-New-Laptop-Displays-23326016 Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:51:06 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Rant-New-Laptop-Displays-23325309 said by Selenia:

16:10 would be useless for TVs because most programming is 16:9 format. Unlike a desktop, when you change the format of a TV show you either lose some of the image or stretch it. 16:10 would need a slight horizontal crop or a vertical stretches. Vertical stretches tend to be ugly, see my pics above. Stretches are evil indeed. I don't like crops either, especially with TV.

When I watch 16:9 content on my 1920x1200 the default is black spaces at the top and bottom. 60 pixels each, they aren't that big pretty easy to ignore unless the monitor has bad bleeding issues on the edges. Mine isn't the best, good 24" were really expensive when I bought it, but it's not bad. 1920x1080 is getting really common for desktop monitors now but I like the extra vertical space.

Most laptops, especially the glossy ones which are ubiquitous now, have pretty deep blacks. Doesn't matter though, they're almost all 16:9 these days except the odd 1680x1050 or 1440x900 unit. My next one I'll probably give up and get 1920x1080.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Rant-New-Laptop-Displays-23325309 Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:42:30 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Rant-New-Laptop-Displays-23325067 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Rant-New-Laptop-Displays-23325067 Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:59:57 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Rant-New-Laptop-Displays-23314456 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Rant-New-Laptop-Displays-23314456 Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:18:50 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Rant-New-Laptop-Displays-23312865 said by Smith6612:

16:10 isn't that hard to find. For TVs, sure that's probably more difficult. All of the Wide Screen PC monitors I've come by typically run at 16:10 resolutions. Some that I've come by run at 16:9. And of course, I come across a lot of older PCs with CRTs running at 4:3.

And lol at those pictures at the top of this thread. :D

But for me I'm a fan of Wide screen PC monitors. 4:3 was great while it lasted, especially if you ran at a high resolution. Now a days I've gotten used to wide screen through my games as well as running program side by side back in the day before I had dual monitors. As Steve said, it seems better on the eyes as well as it gives a more natural feel.

Unfortunately, I still have old Standard Definition TVs that are Rear Projection/CRTs in this home, and the only LCD screens I have are on the computers so I suppose I'm not that high up on the times compared to what others have (almost everywhere I go I see an HDTV or two, even in homes). I still remember years ago when getting HDTV and Cable/DSL Internet was all the rage and gave you bragging rights so to speak.
i am running a CRT at 1650 x 1050i @29Hz text is crappy

i am trying to Force 60hz mode]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Rant-New-Laptop-Displays-23312865 Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:44:31 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Rant-New-Laptop-Displays-23312205
And lol at those pictures at the top of this thread. :D

But for me I'm a fan of Wide screen PC monitors. 4:3 was great while it lasted, especially if you ran at a high resolution. Now a days I've gotten used to wide screen through my games as well as running program side by side back in the day before I had dual monitors. As Steve said, it seems better on the eyes as well as it gives a more natural feel.

Unfortunately, I still have old Standard Definition TVs that are Rear Projection/CRTs in this home, and the only LCD screens I have are on the computers so I suppose I'm not that high up on the times compared to what others have (almost everywhere I go I see an HDTV or two, even in homes). I still remember years ago when getting HDTV and Cable/DSL Internet was all the rage and gave you bragging rights so to speak.
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Though I'd have to say my biggest complaint is the type of wallpaper I look for is somewhat tedious to find in a 16:9 format or similar.
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Very crisp display, excellent color saturations, very rich, be it web surfing or watching a movie on blu ray, this monitor is incredible. Even PC World, who gets on their knees for Dell and blows them harder than a toothless hooker, rated the 24" version of my monitor #1 a few times.

When I get a laptop next year it will be an HP Pavilion HDX, which is their ultra high end line, and obviously they are only available in widescreen, which is a good thing. Even when playing on my iPhone, I do as much as I can in landscape mode to give it that widescreen look and feel.
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It also does not help that most of the manufacturers are billing these as 'HD' screens and further reeling in the stupids with crafty marketing. Um. DUDES. You have had HD capable screens for AGES. 1280x800 screens? 720p+. CRT's have LONG been more than capable. 1280x1024 is real damn close to 1080p in the vertical realm sans the 16:9 aspect. 1024x768 (which has been around for like...2 decades?) is 720p+ as well vertically.

And sadly to get any decent screens with 16:10 above anything but 1280x800 there's gonna be a huge premium for the 'privilege'.

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@Mele20 : yes the glossy reflective is also terrible. I am sitting here with my back to a wide window in the kitchen. Today is the first really sunny day we have had in NJ since I received the Inspiron. The reflection on the display is is so "good" I can see a bird sitting in one of the trees outside. :(
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So yeah, my earlier post probably should have said "I hate 10:16 screens" on the text editor, but I was half asleep from work this week :P]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Rant-New-Laptop-Displays-23277735 Mon, 02 Nov 2009 09:32:21 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Rant-New-Laptop-Displays-23277629
Besides the awful ratio on the new monitors, most laptops have that garbage shiny screen which is hell on the eyes. My Dell LCD monitor has a nonreflective coating. That is something else I would never be without on a monitor. I did notice that HP now has a netbook with nonreflective coating. I can't understand why the OEMs starting putting that horrible glossy finish on in the first place as now the TV manufacturers (thank goodness) are finally also going to nonreflective coatings on their LCDs.

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Why are all the OEMs in love with the "wide screen" format?

Maybe I am old fashioned but I REALLY HATE the new 9:16 ratio most all of them seem to have these days.

My 4 year old Dell 600m w/14" display is really getting tired ( cracked case, touch pad, memory drops out, etc ) but it has a 1040 x1400 3:4 display that is really sharp and shows a sizable portion of a web page compared to one of the new ones.

I have a Dell Inspiron 1545 I am "testing" with a 15.4" display and 768 x 1366 resolution. Even thought the display is physically wider, the resolution is coarser ( 1366 VS 1400) so it shows slightly less in the width while making the text much bigger. In the vertical dimension it displays about 1/3 less information.

Looking around it seems that this 9:16 is the new standard for consumer laptops. I may be able to find a higher resolution model, in the 1080 x 1920 range, but I am afraid that will make text kind of tiny on a shorter screen.

Why cant they amke the old 3:4 format; we ALL don't watch DVDs on out laptops.. I have a TV for that!I hear you.
I DESPISE WIDESCREEN!
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I don't see what another 86 pixels wide would be good for and vertical room is limited enough already without losing another 32 pixels.

I also love my 1920x1200 desktop monitor I would never trade it for 1920x1080 one.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Rant-New-Laptop-Displays-23274194 Sun, 01 Nov 2009 10:48:50 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Rant-New-Laptop-Displays-23273661 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Rant-New-Laptop-Displays-23273661 Sun, 01 Nov 2009 07:16:04 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Rant-New-Laptop-Displays-23273473 --
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Why are all the OEMs in love with the "wide screen" format?

Maybe I am old fashioned but I REALLY HATE the new 9:16 ratio most all of them seem to have these days.

My 4 year old Dell 600m w/14" display is really getting tired ( cracked case, touch pad, memory drops out, etc ) but it has a 1040 x1400 3:4 display that is really sharp and shows a sizable portion of a web page compared to one of the new ones.

I have a Dell Inspiron 1545 I am "testing" with a 15.4" display and 768 x 1366 resolution. Even thought the display is physically wider, the resolution is coarser ( 1366 VS 1400) so it shows slightly less in the width while making the text much bigger. In the vertical dimension it displays about 1/3 less information.

Looking around it seems that this 9:16 is the new standard for consumer laptops. I may be able to find a higher resolution model, in the 1080 x 1920 range, but I am afraid that will make text kind of tiny on a shorter screen.

Why cant they amke the old 3:4 format; we ALL don't watch DVDs on out laptops.. I have a TV for that!!!

Tim
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Why do you put all your numbers backwards?
Maybe he speaks a Semitic language...?
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16:9 is the new hotness.

You're just going to have to get used to it. I've been running widescreen for almost two years now and I can't stand looking at a 4:3 display anymore.
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Maybe I am old fashioned but I REALLY HATE the new 9:16 ratio most all of them seem to have these days.

My 4 year old Dell 600m w/14" display is really getting tired ( cracked case, touch pad, memory drops out, etc ) but it has a 1040 x1400 3:4 display that is really sharp and shows a sizable portion of a web page compared to one of the new ones.

I have a Dell Inspiron 1545 I am "testing" with a 15.4" display and 768 x 1366 resolution. Even thought the display is physically wider, the resolution is coarser ( 1366 VS 1400) so it shows slightly less in the width while making the text much bigger. In the vertical dimension it displays about 1/3 less information.

Looking around it seems that this 9:16 is the new standard for consumer laptops. I may be able to find a higher resolution model, in the 1080 x 1920 range, but I am afraid that will make text kind of tiny on a shorter screen.

Why cant they amke the old 3:4 format; we ALL don't watch DVDs on out laptops.. I have a TV for that!!!

Tim
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