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gdm
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Re: Droid doesn't

All the carriers are going to require a data plan for smartphones now.


Locutus65
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said by gdm See Profile :

All the carriers are going to require a data plan for smartphones now.
You can get by without a data plan if you pay full price for the phone. I have a Palm Treo without a data plan because I bought the phone outright. I've talked to Verizon recently and they confirmed that you can do without.
I still have internet, just not the high speed.
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eberglar
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Why would you want any smartphone without a data plan?


Locutus65
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said by eberglar See Profile :

Why would you want any smartphone without a data plan?
Cause I'm cheap. As little as I use the internet on my phone it works fine without a data plan. I still make full use of the other smartphone features and Windows mobile.
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Boricua65

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said by Locutus65 See Profile :

You can get by without a data plan if you pay full price for the phone. I have a Palm Treo without a data plan because I bought the phone outright. I've talked to Verizon recently and they confirmed that you can do without.
I still have internet, just not the high speed.
Yeah, except full price it's almost $600 which I don't have either (but I'll keep it in mind ).
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Matt
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Just got back from the Verizon store ... which was PACKED. Everyone was crowded around the Droid Eris (a pretty good phone too) and the Droid. They had 4 Droids out and 3 Droid Eris' out and people were still waiting to play with them.

I finally got a chance and man, it is a bad ass phone. Fast, responsive touch screen, YouTube worked directly from the browser, it looks a lot more "industrial" as my GF put it, but I like that. And did I mention it was FAST? I haven't played with a 3GS but there is simply no comparison between my 3G and the Droid. You flip the device and the screen instantly flips. Slide the screen to reveal the keyboard and bam, the screen flips. Animations and transitions are instantaneous. The only gripe I could find was scrolling a full webpage quickly is still jerky like most other mobile phones.

I even performed a simple webpage load test (dslreports.com) and the Droid handily beat my 3G ... both over 3G with full bars.

The only thing I couldn't play with was the email (Exchange) side of the house. Has anyone been able to find a review of the Droid running Exchange email?
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Locutus65
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I've read in one review that there is an issue with the camera focusing. anyone know anything about that?
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I'd like to get a Droid, I currently have a BB Curve and my new every two still has a year left on it though, so I don't think I can get this phone at the 2yr contract price.
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I've read in one review that there is an issue with the camera focusing. anyone know anything about that?
With the auto focus or focusing in general?
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Locutus65
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said by Locutus65 See Profile :

I've read in one review that there is an issue with the camera focusing. anyone know anything about that?
With the auto focus or focusing in general?
It's the link in this thread that GDM put up.
»www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/11/···-review/

Here's the section about the camera

"The camera, a 5 megapixel autofocus dual LED flash, is straight up disappointing. It doesn’t seem to be hardware-related as we’re almost positive it’s a software issue, but man… did Kodak just say peace out to Moto or? This thing couldn’t focus on any sort of scene, portrait, landscape, a close-up — nothing — to save its life. On top of pictures not coming out focused properly, the camera application is ridiculously slow, sometimes pausing up to 7 or 8 seconds after you’ve taken a picture before it will let you snap again. What’s worse is that with geo-tagging enabled, delays get even longer."
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Matt
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»phandroid.com/2009/11/03/motorol···-review/

That link notes (with pictures) the inconsistent performance of the camera. That sounds like a software bug that needs to be addressed, rather than a hardware issue.
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Alcohol
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said by eberglar See Profile :

Why would you want any smartphone without a data plan?
Two words. Free Wifi.

Why pay $30 a month when i can use "free" wifi at home, at work, at school and pretty much everywhere i go?
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Alcohol
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said by Locutus65 See Profile :

I've read in one review that there is an issue with the camera focusing. anyone know anything about that?
Ive heard it's just a little slow on focusing. No big deal unless you want to take pictures of moving objects.
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Boricua65

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said by Alcohol See Profile :

Two words. Free Wifi.

Why pay $30 a month when i can use "free" wifi at home, at work, at school and pretty much everywhere i go?
The issue not free wi-fi but VZW will include the data plan, this is not an option.
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Matt
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said by Boricua65 See Profile :

said by Alcohol See Profile :

Two words. Free Wifi.

Why pay $30 a month when i can use "free" wifi at home, at work, at school and pretty much everywhere i go?
The issue not free wi-fi but VZW will include the data plan, this is not an option.
Unfortunately, all carriers now do this. It's total BS.
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Alcohol
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said by Alcohol See Profile :

Two words. Free Wifi.

Why pay $30 a month when i can use "free" wifi at home, at work, at school and pretty much everywhere i go?
The issue not free wi-fi but VZW will include the data plan, this is not an option.
said by Locutus65 See Profile :

said by gdm See Profile :

All the carriers are going to require a data plan for smartphones now.
You can get by without a data plan if you pay full price for the phone. I have a Palm Treo without a data plan because I bought the phone outright. I've talked to Verizon recently and they confirmed that you can do without.
I still have internet, just not the high speed.
As Locutus65 See Profile said you can buy the phone unlocked and not have to worry about a data plan. Which is what i always do. And i answered the question as to why i don't want a data plan that cost me $30 a month.
I'd rather pay a higher price for an unlocked phone.
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Matt
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said by Alcohol See Profile :

As Locutus65 See Profile said you can buy the phone unlocked and not have to worry about a data plan. Which is what i always do. And i answered the question as to why i don't want a data plan that cost me $30 a month.
I'd rather pay a higher price for an unlocked phone.
That's a good point. $199 for a phone with a data plan ($30/month) requirement, or $599 for an unlocked phone. The price of that data plan is $360/year, or $720 over the life of the contract. So if you don't want a data plan and can front the cash up-front, you'll come out much better buying an unlocked phone if you can find one.
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Alcohol
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said by Matt See Profile :

said by Alcohol See Profile :

As Locutus65 See Profile said you can buy the phone unlocked and not have to worry about a data plan. Which is what i always do. And i answered the question as to why i don't want a data plan that cost me $30 a month.
I'd rather pay a higher price for an unlocked phone.
That's a good point. $199 for a phone with a data plan ($30/month) requirement, or $599 for an unlocked phone. The price of that data plan is $360/year, or $720 over the life of the contract. So if you don't want a data plan and can front the cash up-front, you'll come out much better buying an unlocked phone if you can find one.
Also, your contract will most likely not be extended for 2 years if you buy an unlocked phone.
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imrf
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reply to Alcohol
It's not slow at focusing, it has a hard time focusing at times. According to a Moto engineer who posted at Howard Forums, Moto is aware of the issue and is working on resolving it soon. Only time will tell I guess. It hasn't given me much of a headache, yet.


Boricua65

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Also, your contract will most likely not be extended for 2 years if you buy an unlocked phone.
Correct. The only problem is who has $599 to throw around on a phone , especially if something happens to it .
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