Topic 'Droid doesn't' in forum 'Cellphones, Providers, and Plans' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Droid-doesnt-23275673 en Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:57:44 EDT Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:57:44 EDT Re: Droid doesn't http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Droid-doesnt-23442468 said by Matt:

Seriously? My Droid will wake me up it vibrates so hard. It's definitely the hardest vibrate of any phone I've ever owned. I agree, the vibrate is very strong on the Droid, but it isn't a long vibrate. My old LG vibrate was quite a bit longer than the Droid. I too have missed calls at times when in vibrate mode. But it isn't that big of a deal to me.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Droid-doesnt-23442468 Sat, 05 Dec 2009 13:17:04 EDT Re: Droid doesn't http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Droid-doesnt-23437026 said by gdm:

As Rob stated IMEI. Just because GSM uses SIM chips vs the CDMA companies doesn't mean squat as far as registering the phones. They know what phone you have. Plus what they've been missing out $$ wise with letting people use smartphones without data plans.
Yep and they get the bad press when a user, who has a smartphone with no data, receives a $2,000 dollar bill because the user didn't know that wifi only works when you're.. uhh.. in a wifi area.
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Well, I finally found ONE drawback to the Droid. When in Vibrate mode it doesn't vibrate very strong. I've missed a few calls because I can't feel it. I do keep mine in a pretty heavy duty case on my belt which doesn't help but my Treo had a very strong vibration I could really feel. Other than that the phone is still AWESOME!
Seriously? My Droid will wake me up it vibrates so hard. It's definitely the hardest vibrate of any phone I've ever owned. You may have a defective phone, I'd take it into the Verizon store and compare.

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FYI, I'm sitting at the airport, laptop tethered to my Droid, streaming Slacker radio, and even bought a few songs from the Droid's Amazon MP3 app, all without interrupting anything else I was doing. This is sweet!

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said by gdm:

Yes they do. They can tell from the SIM & phone which one you have.
How?
From the imei that the phone gives out to their system when it connects.
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said by gdm:

Yes they do. They can tell from the SIM & phone which one you have.
How?
I'm not sure, but I have also heard people who have swapped their SIM into an iPhone suddenly find a data plan on their bill.
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Yes they do. They can tell from the SIM & phone which one you have.
How?
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From what I was told if you had a smartphone with no data plan before the November date it shouldn't affect you. Unless you make changes to the plan I believe.

My wife still hasn't got a data plan.
My understanding is they are going back and adding data plans to any smart phone that doesn't have one, so you may want to watch your bill closely.
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My wife still hasn't got a data plan.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Droid-doesnt-23435005 Thu, 03 Dec 2009 20:19:07 EDT Re: Droid doesn't http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Droid-doesnt-23434763 said by gdm:

Yes they do. They can tell from the SIM & phone which one you have. They just started this rule (mid november I believe) of any smartphone requires a data plan. They may not figure it out right away but they can.
They (AT&T) have been adding plans without even notifying customers when they find out as well. It just pops up on a bill suddenly.
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I have the HTC touch pro 2 with ATT and i don't have a data plan. They have no way of knowing what phone im using.

I bought the htc unlocked from timtechs.
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Yesterday I had to do an update for my Google Maps on my Droid. 2.5 Mb in just under 30 seconds.
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said by Boricua65:

said by Alcohol:

Also, your contract will most likely not be extended for 2 years if you buy an unlocked phone.
Correct. The only problem is who has $599 to throw around on a phone :huh:, especially if something happens to it :(.
I bought my unlocked smartphone from Dell they sell accidental coverage protection. Also if you buy it from your carrier you can get their insurance.

But if you buy it from your carrier they still know what phone you have. If you want a data plan they will assign you a plan that has been optimized for your device still overcharge you.
They know what type of phone it is (at least in the CDMA world) by the ESN or IEMI. I gave a buddy a Q9c and Verizon refused to activate it without him adding a data plan. I told him he probably had a smart rep or let slip that he had a smart phone, so he called back in 2 or 3 times and all the reps said the same thing, it was a smart phone and he had to add a data plan.
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said by Alcohol:

Also, your contract will most likely not be extended for 2 years if you buy an unlocked phone.
Correct. The only problem is who has $599 to throw around on a phone :huh:, especially if something happens to it :(.
I bought my unlocked smartphone from Dell they sell accidental coverage protection. Also if you buy it from your carrier you can get their insurance.

But if you buy it from your carrier they still know what phone you have. If you want a data plan they will assign you a plan that has been optimized for your device still overcharge you.
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Just picked up my Droid about 2 hours ago. It's friggin' AWESOME!
I worked on a friend's computer and he told showed the Droid he bought. Got me salivating and a tinge of jealousy :huh:. And now you tell me this, I just might check you BB like imrf See Profile.
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-Jimi Hendrix]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Droid-doesnt-23327006 Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:13:09 EDT Re: Droid doesn't http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Droid-doesnt-23326448 said by imrf:

I went there and wasn't eligible for the NE2 thing and they could sell it to me for $199. I ended up going to the Verizon store and buying it from there for $199, had a VIP discount of $50 and also got another $25 credit for some account issues. BB told me they will do everything they can to sell the phone at the lowest cost to the customer to make them happy. Maybe I just had an awesome rep, who knows.
The reps in the store can do whatever they want as long as they can justify it. He could have given it to you for free if he wanted to.
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said by NY Tel:

Naughty, naughty - you didn't follow my instructions. :)
The web site only reflects your new every 2. The method I described tells you when you are eligible for discounted pricing which is usually 10 months into your contract.
Try it and let me know what it says.
I just did it and said same thing, October 28th 2010. I can upgrade now at full retail price though,,lol.
That's why I put a smiley face.....
Sometimes the phone lady has more accurate info.
Yeah forget paying full retail - its way too expensive.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Droid-doesnt-23324758 Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:09:03 EDT Re: Droid doesn't http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Droid-doesnt-23323498 said by NY Tel:

Naughty, naughty - you didn't follow my instructions. :)
The web site only reflects your new every 2. The method I described tells you when you are eligible for discounted pricing which is usually 10 months into your contract.
Try it and let me know what it says.
I just did it and said same thing, October 28th 2010. I can upgrade now at full retail price though,,lol.
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said by NY Tel:

said by Fir_Na_Tine:

I'd like to get a Droid, I currently have a BB Curve and my new every two still has a year left on it though, so I don't think I can get this phone at the 2yr contract price.
Dial *611 from your phone - wait till she answers.
then dial option 2 and option 2.
This will tell you what the status is of your New Every 2 or early upgrade eligibility.
You may have to enter your password or the last 4 of your SS # to get this info (of the last 4 of the account holder).
According to the Verizon website I have till October of next year to wait for the new every two. I don't have the cash to buy it outright either, oh well guess I'll wait and by then they will have all the bugs worked out or maybe something better.
Naughty, naughty - you didn't follow my instructions. :)
The web site only reflects your new every 2. The method I described tells you when you are eligible for discounted pricing which is usually 10 months into your contract.
Try it and let me know what it says.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Droid-doesnt-23322287 Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:14:42 EDT Re: Droid doesn't http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Droid-doesnt-23321810 said by NY Tel:

said by Fir_Na_Tine:

I'd like to get a Droid, I currently have a BB Curve and my new every two still has a year left on it though, so I don't think I can get this phone at the 2yr contract price.
Dial *611 from your phone - wait till she answers.
then dial option 2 and option 2.
This will tell you what the status is of your New Every 2 or early upgrade eligibility.
You may have to enter your password or the last 4 of your SS # to get this info (of the last 4 of the account holder).
According to the Verizon website I have till October of next year to wait for the new every two. I don't have the cash to buy it outright either, oh well guess I'll wait and by then they will have all the bugs worked out or maybe something better.
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I'd like to get a Droid, I currently have a BB Curve and my new every two still has a year left on it though, so I don't think I can get this phone at the 2yr contract price.
Dial *611 from your phone - wait till she answers.
then dial option 2 and option 2.
This will tell you what the status is of your New Every 2 or early upgrade eligibility.
You may have to enter your password or the last 4 of your SS # to get this info (of the last 4 of the account holder).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Droid-doesnt-23320787 Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:23:08 EDT Re: Droid doesn't http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Droid-doesnt-23320088 said by Alcohol:

Also, your contract will most likely not be extended for 2 years if you buy an unlocked phone.
Correct. The only problem is who has $599 to throw around on a phone :huh:, especially if something happens to it :(.
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said by Alcohol:

As Locutus65 See Profile said you can buy the phone unlocked and not have to worry about a data plan. Which is what i always do. And i answered the question as to why i don't want a data plan that cost me $30 a month.
I'd rather pay a higher price for an unlocked phone.
That's a good point. $199 for a phone with a data plan ($30/month) requirement, or $599 for an unlocked phone. The price of that data plan is $360/year, or $720 over the life of the contract. So if you don't want a data plan and can front the cash up-front, you'll come out much better buying an unlocked phone if you can find one.
Also, your contract will most likely not be extended for 2 years if you buy an unlocked phone.
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As Locutus65 See Profile said you can buy the phone unlocked and not have to worry about a data plan. Which is what i always do. And i answered the question as to why i don't want a data plan that cost me $30 a month.
I'd rather pay a higher price for an unlocked phone.
That's a good point. $199 for a phone with a data plan ($30/month) requirement, or $599 for an unlocked phone. The price of that data plan is $360/year, or $720 over the life of the contract. So if you don't want a data plan and can front the cash up-front, you'll come out much better buying an unlocked phone if you can find one.
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said by Alcohol:

Two words. Free Wifi.

Why pay $30 a month when i can use "free" wifi at home, at work, at school and pretty much everywhere i go?
The issue not free wi-fi but VZW will include the data plan, this is not an option.
said by Locutus65:

said by gdm:

All the carriers are going to require a data plan for smartphones now.
You can get by without a data plan if you pay full price for the phone. I have a Palm Treo without a data plan because I bought the phone outright. I've talked to Verizon recently and they confirmed that you can do without.
I still have internet, just not the high speed.
As Locutus65 See Profile said you can buy the phone unlocked and not have to worry about a data plan. Which is what i always do. And i answered the question as to why i don't want a data plan that cost me $30 a month.
I'd rather pay a higher price for an unlocked phone.
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said by Alcohol:

Two words. Free Wifi.

Why pay $30 a month when i can use "free" wifi at home, at work, at school and pretty much everywhere i go?
The issue not free wi-fi but VZW will include the data plan, this is not an option.
Unfortunately, all carriers now do this. It's total BS.
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Two words. Free Wifi.

Why pay $30 a month when i can use "free" wifi at home, at work, at school and pretty much everywhere i go?
The issue not free wi-fi but VZW will include the data plan, this is not an option.
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I've read in one review that there is an issue with the camera focusing. anyone know anything about that?
Ive heard it's just a little slow on focusing. No big deal unless you want to take pictures of moving objects. :hmm:
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Why would you want any smartphone without a data plan?
Two words. Free Wifi.

Why pay $30 a month when i can use "free" wifi at home, at work, at school and pretty much everywhere i go?
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That link notes (with pictures) the inconsistent performance of the camera. That sounds like a software bug that needs to be addressed, rather than a hardware issue.
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said by Locutus65:

I've read in one review that there is an issue with the camera focusing. anyone know anything about that?
With the auto focus or focusing in general?
It's the link in this thread that GDM put up.
»www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/11/···-review/

Here's the section about the camera

"The camera, a 5 megapixel autofocus dual LED flash, is straight up disappointing. It doesn’t seem to be hardware-related as we’re almost positive it’s a software issue, but man… did Kodak just say peace out to Moto or? This thing couldn’t focus on any sort of scene, portrait, landscape, a close-up — nothing — to save its life. On top of pictures not coming out focused properly, the camera application is ridiculously slow, sometimes pausing up to 7 or 8 seconds after you’ve taken a picture before it will let you snap again. What’s worse is that with geo-tagging enabled, delays get even longer."
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I've read in one review that there is an issue with the camera focusing. anyone know anything about that?
With the auto focus or focusing in general?
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I finally got a chance and man, it is a bad ass phone. Fast, responsive touch screen, YouTube worked directly from the browser, it looks a lot more "industrial" as my GF put it, but I like that. And did I mention it was FAST? I haven't played with a 3GS but there is simply no comparison between my 3G and the Droid. You flip the device and the screen instantly flips. Slide the screen to reveal the keyboard and bam, the screen flips. Animations and transitions are instantaneous. The only gripe I could find was scrolling a full webpage quickly is still jerky like most other mobile phones.

I even performed a simple webpage load test (dslreports.com) and the Droid handily beat my 3G ... both over 3G with full bars.

The only thing I couldn't play with was the email (Exchange) side of the house. Has anyone been able to find a review of the Droid running Exchange email?
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You can get by without a data plan if you pay full price for the phone. I have a Palm Treo without a data plan because I bought the phone outright. I've talked to Verizon recently and they confirmed that you can do without.
I still have internet, just not the high speed.
Yeah, except full price it's almost $600 which I don't have either :huh: (but I'll keep it in mind :)).
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