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iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
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Also launched in Austin and San Antonio

For a total of 3.2 million extra folks covered in that area, if we're assuming the full metro areas are covered, give or take additional areas nearby. There's close to contiguous coverage between Ausin and S.A. Granted, the Chicago metro is 10 million people and DFW is 5.5 million, but still not shabby.

Interesting, though expected, that Clear's big thrust recently has been in TWC markets. What's even more interesting is that Clear's speed tiers are a tad better than TWC's wired cable internet tiers, though pricing is slightly offset.

For example:
1000/500 Clear - $25
768/128 TWC - $20

3000/1000 Clear - $30
3000/384 TWC - $35

Uncapped/1000 Clear (6+ Mbps) - $45
7000/512 TWC - $40

Granted, TWC has lower pings and probably a more reliable network, but the prices on lower end service compare favorably with TWC and U-Verse, where the latter is available. Grande Communications loses out here on a price-performance comparison.

It's nice having no fewer than four providers competing on legit high speed internet, though no provider offers more than 2 Mbps up in San Antonio or Austin, at least not in most cases. You have to go to coop-powered GVTC territory for that (they have a 20/3 residential tier, and a 25/??? business tier).

One other thing: Clear's small business internet is MUCH cheaper than TWC's. I'll bet a few businesses will switch over due to the cost savings.

patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
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Now what bandwidth pool are each of the Clear tiers taken out of? Cable is 38mbit DOCSIS per node/tower. Is Clear's towers can only deliver advertised speed to only 1 subscriber at any time? How did Clear engineer their network for over subscription (which all telecom companies do).?


iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
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100+ MHz of spectrum to play with, that's how.



skyward

@sprint.com

reply to patcat88
By having double the spectrum of Verizon and ATT LTE.


patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
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reply to iansltx

said by iansltx:

100+ MHz of spectrum to play with, that's how.
Irrelevant.

If you have 1 tower serving 200000 subscribers, 100mhz is nothing.

If you have low SNR, 100 mhz means nothing.

If your not using all 100mhz by corporate financial decision, 100 mhz means nothing.

If your backhaul is less than what 100 mhz and the SNR and protocol make available, 100 mhz means nothing.

If there are legacy users in your 100 mhz, 100 mhz means nothing.

iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
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1. WiMAX is built for metro-area networks. There aren't going to be 200,000 subscribers on a tower, just like there aren't 200,000 subscribers on a cable node.

2. Cable has low SNR issues as well. There's also the issue of no-SNR areas...you know, the ones that aren't wired for cable.

3. If you aren't using DOCSIS 3.0 by corporate decision, 160 Mbps means nothing.

4. Clear has fiber backhauls to its main towers, and wireless bckhauls in between towers. Once you get fiber brought in the marginal cost of bandwidth is relatively low. On the wireless side, point to point wireless backhauls are available at the gigabit-per-second level.

5. There are no legacy users in the 100MHz of spectrum that Clear has.

With 100MHz of spectrum, Clear potentially has more capacity in a given area than 8-channel-bonded DOCSIS 3.0, though realistically due to lower than average signals etc. you'll see packages more comparable to DOCSIS 1.1 or maybe 2.0, at least with today's equipment. Which is perfectly fine; DOCSIS 1.1 and 2.0 are more than enough to compete on mobility and price versus DSL, non-D3 cable and even DOCSIS 3.



Duramax08
A Challenger Appears
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San Antonio, TX
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reply to iansltx


Finally, No more dial up
Im in love with 4G and this is only on ONE BAR! Bye bye dial up!

upload is a bit on the low side but im gona move the modem around 2morrow.
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One day, High speed internet will be down my road! Willing to put DSLAM's or cable plants on my yard. Contact me AT&T or TWC to set up an appointment =]

patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1

reply to iansltx

said by iansltx:

With 100MHz of spectrum, Clear potentially has more capacity in a given area than 8-channel-bonded DOCSIS 3.0, though realistically due to lower than average signals etc. you'll see packages more comparable to DOCSIS 1.1 or maybe 2.0, at least with today's equipment. Which is perfectly fine; DOCSIS 1.1 and 2.0 are more than enough to compete on mobility and price versus DSL, non-D3 cable and even DOCSIS 3.
How about some actual mbps? And does Clear use 100 mhz at each tower? and how much performance loss is there from frequencey reuse in wimax?

iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2

reply to Duramax08
YAY DURAMAX08!

Does the modem have an antenna port? If so, you might be able to hook up a 24 dbi grid tuned to 2.4 GHz and pull in some more bars that way.


iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
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reply to patcat88
WiMAX is 4.5 bits per Hz at maximum modulation. Probably around 3.5 bits per Hz normally. So on a 5 MHz channel you've got 5 x 3.5 = 17.5 Mbps of capacity on the downstream. 10 MHz channels may also be deployed.

Each tower probably won't use all 100+ MHz that Clear has, but could use 60+ MHz if sectorized with no performance degradation due to spectrum reuse. Which, thanks to the propagation patterns of 2500MHz, is high.



powerspec88
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join:2007-03-11
Lenexa, KS

Is that spectrum (100MHz that they have to use) per tower, per town, or for the whole US?

So if they use 5MHz for a tower, can they not reuse that for other towers/towns?



Duramax08
A Challenger Appears
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San Antonio, TX
Reviews:
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·Cricket Broadband
·Juno Express
·Clearwire Wireless

reply to iansltx
No antenna. Going to move it around the house and look for a better place for a better signal. Hell, Might even put it outside in a box for a better signal.

Did 1.5gigs of updates in 3 hours. No way in hell dial up would do that.
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High speed internet is on my road thanks to Clear 4G! F$*% you AT&T and TWC!


iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
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reply to powerspec88
Just like any other cellular provider (which they are, sorta) they can reuse their spectrum as long as they don't interfere too much with themselves...and they have a LOT of spectrum. I may be wrong on the actual numbers, but I think they have something like the whole 2500-2600MHz band or something similarly crazy.


iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2

reply to Duramax08
Have fun with your new broadband connection Wish I could get Clear up the road in Fredericksburg. We just got AT&T 3G there...



Duramax08
A Challenger Appears
Premium
join:2008-08-03
San Antonio, TX

They say they are going to expand to citys out of san antonio. Who knows?


iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
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Well, Sprint was the first 3G provider with coverage in my town. One can only hope...



Duramax08
A Challenger Appears
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join:2008-08-03
San Antonio, TX
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·Millenicom
·Cricket Broadband
·Juno Express
·Clearwire Wireless

they say they are going to put towers 1.5 miles away from each other. then they will start extending it to others parts around san antonio then fill in a few dead zones.
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High speed internet is on my road thanks to Clear 4G! F$*% you AT&T and TWC!


iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2

Cool. I'll bet towers will be spaced farther apart in more rural areas, if they decide to cover any rural areas, but at 1.5 miles apart there should be PLENTY of capacity for mobile and fixed users.


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