Topic 'IOBit Steals Malwarebytes Intellectual Property' in forum 'Security' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/IOBit-Steals-Malwarebytes-Intellectual-Property-23279924 en Sat, 11 Feb 2012 07:29:18 EDT Sat, 11 Feb 2012 07:29:18 EDT Re: IOBit Steals Malwarebytes Intellectual Property http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IOBit-Steals-Malwarebytes-Intellectual-Property-23308050 said by ZZZZZZZ:

This is pretty pathetic considering it's not even a good program.
Your knowledge of virus tools is what is pathetic in my opinion (and the opinions of the many people I work with)

I do virus removals daily and between combofix and Malwarebytes... they are the two best products out there. Add on that it's free version is, well, FREE... that makes it a cannot beat.

Hopefully MWB kicks some donkey in this case. China in general is getting pretty bad with hacking and such, them and their neighbors :uhh:
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Am I the only person that is bothered by key generators and cracks that don't do any harm to the computer, don't spread any virus/trojan but are still flagged by antivirus software? Even some software to extract the Windows product key is sometimes flagged!
Funded whitelisting or blacklisting has been an issue with several vendors.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IOBit-Steals-Malwarebytes-Intellectual-Property-23305242 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 03:53:27 EDT Re: IOBit Steals Malwarebytes Intellectual Property http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IOBit-Steals-Malwarebytes-Intellectual-Property-23305233 said by doppler:

Good luck in getting results.

China:
A land where you can get "Garden" a $4 copy of Windows XP.
For that amount you can get win7 ultimate even before it was generally available in the us.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IOBit-Steals-Malwarebytes-Intellectual-Property-23305233 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 03:45:19 EDT Re: IOBit Steals Malwarebytes Intellectual Property http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IOBit-Steals-Malwarebytes-Intellectual-Property-23303455 said by joako:

Am I the only person that is bothered by key generators and cracks that don't do any harm to the computer, don't spread any virus/trojan but are still flagged by antivirus software? Even some software to extract the Windows product key is sometimes flagged!
Count me in. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IOBit-Steals-Malwarebytes-Intellectual-Property-23303455 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:34:35 EDT Re: IOBit Steals Malwarebytes Intellectual Property http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IOBit-Steals-Malwarebytes-Intellectual-Property-23293215 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IOBit-Steals-Malwarebytes-Intellectual-Property-23293215 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:44:05 EDT Re: IOBit Steals Malwarebytes Intellectual Property http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IOBit-Steals-Malwarebytes-Intellectual-Property-23292720 said by Vampirefo:

MBAM claims seem unreal, not believable, something is just wrong with MBAM claims. I don't use either product but do find this interesting, MBAM appears as though they don't really know if IOBit has stolen their database or not.
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Sorry, but I beg to differ. But then, perhaps you haven't read as much about it as I have.

I'll admit though, you may have a point when all is said and done. After all, the thought that some company based in China may be stealing Intellectual Property does seem a little bit far fetched.
Why in the world would they do something like that? :huh:

On the other hand, why would Malwarebytes bring such accusations, and stir up such a ruckus if they didn't feel they had some solid proof?
They've stated that they didn't take this lightly, and spent quite some time investigating before they went public with it.

Yes, time will tell for sure.
And I suspect time will tell that the IOBit bunch are a company of low life thieves.
If I end up being wrong, feel free to tell me "I told you so", when this fiasco is over with.

And that's all I have to say about that.
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MBAM claims seem unreal, not believable, something is just wrong with MBAM claims. I don't use either product but do find this interesting, MBAM appears as though they don't really know if IOBit has stolen their database or not.

These little tests might impress some people but they don't impress me at all smoke and mirrors If IOBit is really using MBAM database all MBAM has to do is open it, and read the contents and post them, but I noticed MBAM hasn't done that.

It seems to me MBAM is playing games trying to get people to distrust or dislike IOBit, I believe the samples where submitted by MBAM to IOBit, there is more to this story than what MBAM is letting us know.
no way would a lawyer suggest that they release that information

but it could very well go that way, suppose we'll see in a few months/years depending how long it takes :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IOBit-Steals-Malwarebytes-Intellectual-Property-23292570 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:59:46 EDT Re: IOBit Steals Malwarebytes Intellectual Property http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IOBit-Steals-Malwarebytes-Intellectual-Property-23292402
These little tests might impress some people but they don't impress me at all smoke and mirrors If IOBit is really using MBAM database all MBAM has to do is open it, and read the contents and post them, but I noticed MBAM hasn't done that.

It seems to me MBAM is playing games trying to get people to distrust or dislike IOBit, I believe the samples where submitted by MBAM to IOBit, there is more to this story than what MBAM is letting us know.
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In the '60s when shoplifting was for many an act of anti-establishment rebellion, we politely called it a "five finger discount". I guess you'd now call this "five finger marketing".
More like "middle finger marketing"... :D
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We have never used the database of any other companies. And hope Malwarebytes stop spreading malicious rumors for hyping itself. The ridiculousness: who will trust and depend on a security product that can NOT even protect itself?

A legal letter will be released later, which will prove that there is no problem with Intellectual Property Rights.

For the sake of avoiding dispute and possible problems, we have deleted all disputed items in our database temporarily, and have updated IObit Security 360’s database.

Our database is from the online submission form:
»db.iobit.com/deal/sdsubmit/index.php
We also have many various sources of malware samples from warm-hearted users, computer security fans, and major security groups from all over the world. We have admitted that it’s hard to avoid mistakes, like a silly or duplicated name. But there is in no way means we steal Malwarebytes’ or any other's database. We are investigating and tracking on those items which Malwarebytes declared stolen.

We have so many independent and objective reviewing tests and reports; everybody can download and view from the link: »forums.iobit.com/forumdisplay.php?f=25. We believe that, after viewing these test report, you can judge that if we steal database from Malwarebytes.

Thanks for the always support of IObit users.
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»forums.iobit.com/showthread.php?t=4807

Ok if what MBAM claims is all bullshit why would IObit remove all
disputed items in their database temporarily? If they say MBAM is lying and they (IObit) haven't stolen anyone's database and used it in their product then why remove said database?
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True to form, a shill shows up. And it only took about 33 hours to do so.
And notice that they joined the board just today to post as a shill within the first hour (joined today and post was at 12:42 AM).

I would go further than untrusted "security" vendor, and classify they as a rogue security vendor as others have previously been classified when they took other companies work, either the program interface or database.
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I think the online community will deal with these people in their own way. In the early history of the country, one form of punishment for not conforming to community standards was to shun the offender. It looks like we're doing a good job of administering the 21st-century form of that sanction.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IOBit-Steals-Malwarebytes-Intellectual-Property-23290178 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:13:36 EDT Re: IOBit Steals Malwarebytes Intellectual Property http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IOBit-Steals-Malwarebytes-Intellectual-Property-23290100 said by jpav:

I am a solid IObit fans, don't believe they need to copy a competitor's work as they have all the necessary expertise at their own fingertips.
True to form, a shill shows up. And it only took about 33 hours to do so.

No one on this site believes what you say.

How does it feel to work for an untrusted "security" vendor?

Because that's what IOBit has become as a result of their actions.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IOBit-Steals-Malwarebytes-Intellectual-Property-23290100 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:00:38 EDT Re: IOBit Steals Malwarebytes Intellectual Property http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IOBit-Steals-Malwarebytes-Intellectual-Property-23289961 For the most part, it looks pretty out of control over there. (Some of it reminds me of a mutiny at sea).
»forums.iobit.com/showthread.php?t=4802

Sure makes for some interesting reading though...(if you're really bored and feel like reading).
Especially when you read various Threads around other Forums as well (such as the Malwarebytes Forums), and get the whole picture from different perspectives.

One thing for sure, this whole thing sure has spread around pretty fast. :D
»www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=···oq=&aqi=

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i thought "iobit" had a good explanation and i don't believe that they are stealing malwarebytes' malware-definitions..

how would people get the dummy-files in the first place unless malwarebytes provided them to the person who had them?

maybe malwarebytes methodology was flawed, and fit with iobit's explanation:

someone ie malwarebytes submitted files to iobit; iobit adds definitions for the files; then, malwarebytes claims that iobit is flagging their dummy files and, so, concludes that iobit is stealing their malware-definitions, because iobit is flagging the dummy-files that malwarebytes submitted to them?
You seem to be missing the point here. MalwareBytes didn't provide anyone any dummy file because they simply didn't exist untill malwarebytes found out about the duplicated detection bases. As soon as MB found out, they created an .exe file which would trigger the detection. So the cheaptalk about someone must have submitted blahblah doesn't make sense to start with, since at the time there was no dummy to "submit to us", it was only created when MalwareBytes had the clear evidence at hand, being the detection base from IObit (well lets call it theirs anyway) and the screenshots they took from IObit flagging their just created dummy perfectly as malwarebytes wanted it to show up. Malwarebytes can now create as much dummies for as much fake "nasties" as they want, what will the result be for the end-user ? Are we going to start downloading multiply MB's of detections containing 50% of fake ones for the sake of so-called security-companies stealing from and trashing each other ?

Lets get back the the AV way of making us believe any No-CD patch for big selling games is infected with any random virus they tell us, we're being manipulated since a long time, not for our security but for commercialism.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IOBit-Steals-Malwarebytes-Intellectual-Property-23289938 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 11:33:36 EDT Re: IOBit Steals Malwarebytes Intellectual Property http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IOBit-Steals-Malwarebytes-Intellectual-Property-23289859
Intellectual property rights in China doesn't exist.
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said by rawwhide:

Download.com/Cnet still has their software up.
They also have an article up now...

»news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-10389650-245.html
interesting....

"Unfortunately, IObit database analyzer carelessly used the names provided by the submission. This mistake can be understood because it is very normal--Many enthusiastic IObit users find there are samples missed by IObit Security 360 but detected by other anti-malware products, then they would submit these samples to us and provide names defined by other anti-malware vendors."

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This part is interesting, though not surprising:
quote:
Second, and far more importantly, if IObit has stolen not only our database but also the databases of other security vendors, as we strongly suspect they have, then of course their database would be larger. We have presented evidence of theft to other security vendors, although we will leave it to them to disclose information to the public.


I wonder if other security vendors will publicly confirm or deny whether IoBit has been stealing their work. Most may choose to distance themselves from the issues.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IOBit-Steals-Malwarebytes-Intellectual-Property-23289754 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 11:04:37 EDT Re: IOBit Steals Malwarebytes Intellectual Property http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IOBit-Steals-Malwarebytes-Intellectual-Property-23288922 said by rawwhide:

Download.com/Cnet still has their software up. They also have an article up now...

»news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-10389650-245.html
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After reading much of the thread in the Malwarebytes Forum, there is little doubt in my mind that the accusations are true.

What I'm seeing in IOBit's 'Declaration' looks like a pretty poor attempt at damage control...somehow I don't think it will work too well at this point.

I also just noticed that all of the comments at the end of the IOBit Declaration magically disappeared, and "Comments are closed" now...the majority of which were "anti-IOBit", and/or customers wanting to know what the heck was going on with this company, and demanding a satisfactory explanation.
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someone ie malwarebytes submitted files to iobit; iobit adds definitions for the files;
before adding submitted files should they not be analysed first to establish whether malicious or not?

Cudni
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how would people get the dummy-files in the first place unless malwarebytes provided them to the person who had them?

maybe malwarebytes methodology was flawed, and fit with iobit's explanation:

someone ie malwarebytes submitted files to iobit; iobit adds definitions for the files; then, malwarebytes claims that iobit is flagging their dummy files and, so, concludes that iobit is stealing their malware-definitions, because iobit is flagging the dummy-files that malwarebytes submitted to them?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IOBit-Steals-Malwarebytes-Intellectual-Property-23288629 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 06:16:40 EDT Re: IOBit Steals Malwarebytes Intellectual Property http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IOBit-Steals-Malwarebytes-Intellectual-Property-23288600 --
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I am a solid IObit fans, don't believe they need to copy a competitor's work as they have all the necessary expertise at their own fingertips.
If the allegations are true (and there's little reason to doubt Malwarebytes), you mean they have all the necessary expertise at IN their own fingertips.

In the '60s when shoplifting was for many an act of anti-establishment rebellion, we politely called it a "five finger discount". I guess you'd now call this "five finger marketing".]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IOBit-Steals-Malwarebytes-Intellectual-Property-23288549 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 04:40:57 EDT Re: IOBit Steals Malwarebytes Intellectual Property http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IOBit-Steals-Malwarebytes-Intellectual-Property-23288265 said by jpav:

I am a solid IObit fans, don't believe they need to copy a competitor's work as they have all the necessary expertise at their own fingertips.
ahh, yes and I believe you completely....LOL]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IOBit-Steals-Malwarebytes-Intellectual-Property-23288265 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 01:03:55 EDT Re: IOBit Steals Malwarebytes Intellectual Property http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IOBit-Steals-Malwarebytes-Intellectual-Property-23288224 said by jpav:

I am a solid IObit fans, don't believe they need to copy a competitor's work as they have all the necessary expertise at their own fingertips.
you also have 1 post, and registered at EARLIEST, 50minutes ago :)

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said by Ryan:

said by joako:

Am I the only person that is bothered by key generators and cracks that don't do any harm to the computer, don't spread any virus/trojan but are still flagged by antivirus software? Even some software to extract the Windows product key is sometimes flagged!
Yes. If they want to protect their own software then let them...
It does not instill trust in any way. If a program is only "malicious" because it potentially harms the security software vendor's revenue stream (and Ok you installed your pirated antivirus HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GET UPDATES... or are they saying their system was so weak no only could other vendors steal their definitions they can't even restrict their definition updates to active subscribers?).

Look, I am not saying I am for software piracy but what is the point of Anti* software? To detect * from my computer, nothing more. If I wanted MalwareBytes AntiKeyGenWare I would have bought that product, but I don't think anyone in their right mind would actually go out of their way to buy that sort of product.

What is next, will Anti* software start flagging competitors software? Terrorism is a threat to everyone, shouldn't Anti-* software mark alqaeda.com as a "Tojan" or something like that? Even if it doesn't, that website might be "harmful"
The more they can detect then more they can claim to be better than the next guy in town. So they claim harmless programs as evil in order to make money. It's all about the bottom line.

p.s. and no you are not alone.
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The second I found out my av software was flagging things other than viruses/spyware I removed it from my system and demanded a refund and got it. I really don't care about their reasons, I value my privacy and they've proven they can't be trusted.
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said by joako:

Am I the only person that is bothered by key generators and cracks that don't do any harm to the computer, don't spread any virus/trojan but are still flagged by antivirus software? Even some software to extract the Windows product key is sometimes flagged!
Yes. If they want to protect their own software then let them...
It does not instill trust in any way. If a program is only "malicious" because it potentially harms the security software vendor's revenue stream (and Ok you installed your pirated antivirus HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GET UPDATES... or are they saying their system was so weak no only could other vendors steal their definitions they can't even restrict their definition updates to active subscribers?).

Look, I am not saying I am for software piracy but what is the point of Anti* software? To detect * from my computer, nothing more. If I wanted MalwareBytes AntiKeyGenWare I would have bought that product, but I don't think anyone in their right mind would actually go out of their way to buy that sort of product.

What is next, will Anti* software start flagging competitors software? Terrorism is a threat to everyone, shouldn't Anti-* software mark alqaeda.com as a "Tojan" or something like that? Even if it doesn't, that website might be "harmful"
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This alone tells me everything I want to know about IObit,shelling for 1 of the worst anti-virus programs,you can ever install.
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Next thing you know they will get shills to post here and at Malwarebytes trying to defend their software as legitimate.

It's a common pattern; one which is seen all the time in the Spam, Scam and Phishbusters forum.
After reading through the forums there I am surprised they have not shown up here en masse.
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Have you been touched by his noodly appendage? »www.venganza.org]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IOBit-Steals-Malwarebytes-Intellectual-Property-23284893 Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:13:40 EDT Re: IOBit Steals Malwarebytes Intellectual Property http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IOBit-Steals-Malwarebytes-Intellectual-Property-23284690 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IOBit-Steals-Malwarebytes-Intellectual-Property-23284690 Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:28:41 EDT Re: IOBit Steals Malwarebytes Intellectual Property http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IOBit-Steals-Malwarebytes-Intellectual-Property-23284572 said by joako:

Am I the only person that is bothered by key generators and cracks that don't do any harm to the computer, don't spread any virus/trojan but are still flagged by antivirus software? Even some software to extract the Windows product key is sometimes flagged!
Yes. If they want to protect their own software then let them...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IOBit-Steals-Malwarebytes-Intellectual-Property-23284572 Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:09:44 EDT Re: IOBit Steals Malwarebytes Intellectual Property http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IOBit-Steals-Malwarebytes-Intellectual-Property-23284560 --
PRescott7-2097]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IOBit-Steals-Malwarebytes-Intellectual-Property-23284560 Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:07:19 EDT Re: IOBit Steals Malwarebytes Intellectual Property http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IOBit-Steals-Malwarebytes-Intellectual-Property-23284226 ...rather than a simple public uprising.
well this simple member of the public just removed Smart Defrag in protest]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IOBit-Steals-Malwarebytes-Intellectual-Property-23284226 Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:03:26 EDT Re: IOBit Steals Malwarebytes Intellectual Property http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IOBit-Steals-Malwarebytes-Intellectual-Property-23284193 said by Doctor Four:

Next thing you know they will get shills to post here and at Malwarebytes trying to defend their software as legitimate.
Disinformation has been around for a long time and it isn't likely to stop. Don't be surprised by anything, including attempts to "defend" by attempting to discredit Malwarebytes. (That's a reason why complete anonymity on the internet isn't always a good thing. It can also provide the opportunity for drive-by defamation and character assassination.)

Setting up a fake dummy file to catch them displaying the same fake file was a good strategy. I just hope that now that the cat is out of the bag, they've already collected sufficient proof from a legal standpoint. Contacting an attorney promptly is undoubtedly the best step rather than a simple public uprising.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IOBit-Steals-Malwarebytes-Intellectual-Property-23284193 Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:53:05 EDT Re: IOBit Steals Malwarebytes Intellectual Property http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IOBit-Steals-Malwarebytes-Intellectual-Property-23283987 --
To talk much and arrive nowhere is the same as climbing a tree to catch a fish.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IOBit-Steals-Malwarebytes-Intellectual-Property-23283987 Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:15:04 EDT Re: IOBit Steals Malwarebytes Intellectual Property http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IOBit-Steals-Malwarebytes-Intellectual-Property-23283942
It's a common pattern; one which is seen all the time in the Spam, Scam and Phishbusters forum.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IOBit-Steals-Malwarebytes-Intellectual-Property-23283942 Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:09:22 EDT Re: IOBit Steals Malwarebytes Intellectual Property http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IOBit-Steals-Malwarebytes-Intellectual-Property-23283862
It's also interesting to note that the Blog has already changed since I first looked at it.
They're still in the process of adding more "proof" that no "Intellectual Property" was stolen, as I type this.

(Edit) Or, to put it another way...they're still panicking. :D
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»www.iobit.com
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Interesting "Declaration from IObit":
They "need your support and attention" :D

Some of the followup comments are pretty good too...(Until they get deleted).

»blog.iobit.com/archives/95.html
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In reality, there is no such thing as a clean human being.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IOBit-Steals-Malwarebytes-Intellectual-Property-23283624 Tue, 03 Nov 2009 10:13:57 EDT Re: IOBit Steals Malwarebytes Intellectual Property http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IOBit-Steals-Malwarebytes-Intellectual-Property-23283092
»www.iobit.com/avg-com.html]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-IOBit-Steals-Malwarebytes-Intellectual-Property-23283092 Tue, 03 Nov 2009 08:36:44 EDT