Topic 'How to stop Bell from sending postal junk mail?' in forum 'Bell Canada' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23280645 en Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:29:31 EDT Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:29:31 EDT Re: How to stop Bell from sending postal junk mail? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23354274 Unless there is an existing business relationship, marketers must use the CMA DNC list to cross-reference and purge all telephone, fax and mail marketing lists, removing the contact information of those who are on the CMA DNC list.
»www.the-cma.org/?WCE=C=47|K=225849#17
If you've got a Bell service and don't want to receive unsolicited/marketing mail the above would apply?

When I asked Bell CS to be removed from their mailing list, they said sign up not to receive unsolicited mail. However, I still receive this crap although I signed up with the CRTC. The above where it says: unless there is an existing business relationship - says it all!!!! DUH!!! ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23354274 Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:39:44 EDT Re: How to stop Bell from sending postal junk mail? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23343577
»www.canadapost.ca/cpo/mc/aboutus···pate.jsf]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23343577 Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:12:48 EDT Re: How to stop Bell from sending postal junk mail? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23339372 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23339372 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:25:07 EDT Re: How to stop Bell from sending postal junk mail? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23335614 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23335614 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:02:04 EDT Re: How to stop Bell from sending postal junk mail? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23335442 said by WackoHotspot :

Just send in some people with infectious diseases like viral pneumonia and swine-flu to cough or vomit in their offices/buildings and let nature takes its course. A while ago I would said even that wasn't necessary as the company can only operate like sleaze bags for so long before they go under.
Well the laughs on us with their quarterly earnings almost doubling to 558 million. Darwin would be proud.
I'm jealous. How do you get so many characters when I can't even put my whole name in anymore? Are you special?
»www.digitalhome.ca/2009/11/bce-i···quarter/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23335442 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:34:57 EDT Re: How to stop Bell from sending postal junk mail? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23334041 said by P Principle :

said by sbrook:

So, if you send white powder to someone, and you identify yourself here, I wonder what the odds of them finding you.
Not that you'll post this but are you suggesting a subpoena for an IP.
Just last week we had everyone's favourite TSI poster counselling people to shoot Bell employees "for real" to quote him.
Is DSLR a wacko hotspot now?
Really. Such violence. No need for this.

Just send in some people with infectious diseases like viral pneumonia and swine-flu to cough or vomit in their offices/buildings and let nature takes its course.

white powders and physical violence is so yesterday... *cough*]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23334041 Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:56:12 EDT Re: How to stop Bell from sending postal junk mail? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23333606 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23333606 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:24:28 EDT Re: How to stop Bell from sending postal junk mail? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23333420
We do have some colourful people here.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23333420 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:47:42 EDT Re: How to stop Bell from sending postal junk mail? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23333028 said by sbrook:

So, if you send white powder to someone, and you identify yourself here, I wonder what the odds of them finding you. Not that you'll post this but are you suggesting a subpoena for an IP.
Just last week we had everyone's favourite TSI poster counselling people to shoot Bell employees "for real" to quote him.
Is DSLR a wacko hotspot now?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23333028 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:50:32 EDT Re: How to stop Bell from sending postal junk mail? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23332006 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23332006 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:21:51 EDT Re: How to stop Bell from sending postal junk mail? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23331665
I send all kinds of stuff - Best ones so far Dirty Cat Litter!, Cigarette buts, A letter that said F.ck your Spam - you have 30 minutes to get help (full of Coffemate)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23331665 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:23:52 EDT Re: How to stop Bell from sending postal junk mail? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23325531 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23325531 Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:25:43 EDT Re: How to stop Bell from sending postal junk mail? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23324882 said by Jeffer71:

then mail them on their merrily way. What goes around comes around eh. :D
I would still like to drop it off in the mailbox at the gate of their mansion.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23324882 Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:26:19 EDT Re: How to stop Bell from sending postal junk mail? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23324770 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23324770 Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:10:02 EDT Re: How to stop Bell from sending postal junk mail? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23317871
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...We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience caused as a result of these calls.

The role of the Bell Privacy Ombudsman is to ensure adherence to the Bell Code of Fair Information Practices, which governs the handling of customer information that the Bell Companies collect, use and disclose for the purpose of providing communications service.

The Customer Relations Centre, Bell Executive Office are best positioned to address telemarketing concerns and/or delisting requests. We have therefore forwarded a copy of your e-mail to them for appropriate action. A representative from the team will respond directly to you....

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So they have forwarded my message to the Customer Relations Centre, but did not cc them, so I they aren't giving me their address, either deliberately or otherwise.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23317871 Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:57:22 EDT Re: How to stop Bell from sending postal junk mail? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23309855
I'd definitely rattle somebody's cage. There are a couple possibilities ... it was a Bell telemarketer who was breaking the law ... it was a scammer telemarketer who wanted to get your personal info and posing to be working with Bell.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23309855 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:57:45 EDT Re: How to stop Bell from sending postal junk mail? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23309841
I'm going to try your privacy@bell.ca suggestion. Any other suggestions? I would be up for calling some marketing honcho and telling them what I think of being disturbed at home.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23309841 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:54:01 EDT Re: How to stop Bell from sending postal junk mail? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23296780
Anything addressed to "Occupant" will never be returned to sender.

»www.canadapost.ca/tools/pg/custo···dm-e.asp]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23296780 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:02:05 EDT Re: How to stop Bell from sending postal junk mail? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23296593
Wonder if that would work?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23296593 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:37:30 EDT Re: How to stop Bell from sending postal junk mail? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23296302 said by Bytebender:

But if we all physically carried the junk into one of their outlets, (bell, rogers, whatever).... What if we put it in the mailbox of Bell management and if we don't live near any redirect it to their homes instead.
I'm up for spending a few bucks on postage. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23296302 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:49:00 EDT Re: How to stop Bell from sending postal junk mail? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23296029 said by quanta:

Some great discussion here.

I'm specifically interested in stopping direct mail addressed to us or former occupant: i.e., Home Phone/Internet/TV promotional mails after you've already cancelled.

Does this fall under CMA?
The way I see it is as follows:
They ask for variations of the addressed to name (as can be seen on the webpage).

Put all variations of the names going to you and/or your address.

Take screen shots as proof of you putting it there.

After 6 weeks, if you still get this crap, let us know and let us help you file the complaint. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23296029 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:48:31 EDT Re: How to stop Bell from sending postal junk mail? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23295987
I'm specifically interested in stopping direct mail addressed to us or former occupant: i.e., Home Phone/Internet/TV promotional mails after you've already cancelled.

Does this fall under CMA?
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But beware that you may not receive any municipal notices like the garbage collection calendar, for example. But you can't stop parliamentary and elections mailings, ever.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23294899 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 07:43:27 EDT Re: How to stop Bell from sending postal junk mail? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23294715 said by Bicephale:

I can't bring it
back to the local post office as there's no return address and
Bell ignores the addressee every time she cares to explain to
them that she moved and cancelled all of her Bell services!...
Canada Post still does have to deliver it each time, even if they know you aren't at that old address. The only way around that would have been if you had a forwarding address listed at the time of moving. If that wasn't done, postal work must deliver the mail as addressed. The new occupant would have to refuse to accept the mail each time and it would then be deemed as undeliverable. Or the new occupant could just give it back to the mail delivery person each time and the same thing happens. The new occupant would have to tell the delivery person "unknown/moved" for them to take it back. As you already know, as there is no return address, it can't be returned to sender and Bell has no way of knowing to stop sending you (junk) mail at the old address.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23294715 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 05:46:41 EDT Re: How to stop Bell from sending postal junk mail? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23294131
"addressed to the previous occupant"

...namely, if that's not clear...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23294131 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:37:53 EDT Re: How to stop Bell from sending postal junk mail? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23291217 Recently a drug store in the area changed the way they did things because customers began leaving the unwanted flyers and paper crap right at the door on the way out. Took about a week.
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If it's "flyer mail" ... i.e. advertising that's not addressed ... like the unaddressed envelopes, or the flyers, or the info sheets from your MP (Oh I hate those braggard sheets!) etc. then these cannot be stopped. They are given in bulk to the carriers and they have no way to tell if you're on the CMA list.
That is true, but, Bell also sends letters addressed to "occupant" at "address"]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23291064 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:58:38 EDT Re: How to stop Bell from sending postal junk mail? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23291048 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23291048 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:39:24 EDT Re: How to stop Bell from sending postal junk mail? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23291030 said by Deadpool:

If it's the mail that Bell sent to you directly, but it doesn't have your name on it (eg: To: Occupant), then it won't stop either.
It can be stopped. Via the CMA. You have to submit your adddress. In the area titled variation of names, type: occupant

There are strict standards and a code of ethics Bell must follow, per the CMA.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23291030 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:37:15 EDT Re: How to stop Bell from sending postal junk mail? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23291018 said by quanta:

Does anyone know who and what to contact to stop these advertising messages? It's a waste of paper for me.

Thanks!
The wet noodle Canadian Marketing Association (CMA) has "strict standards its' member adhere to". Bell Canada is a member.

Even if you have a business relationship with them and on the DNCL, this is supposed to take you off their market lists (both mail and phone), per the CMA.

"Strict code" that Bell must follow:
»www.the-cma.org/?WCE=C=47|K=225849#17

The Do Not Call/Mail application webpage:
»cornerstonewebmedia.com/cma/submit.asp

If, after 6-weeks, you still get junk from Bell Canada, then you can submit a formal complaint with this wet noodle organization here in compliance with their strict code of ethics and their "Operation Integrity":
»www.the-cma.org/?WCE=C=47|K=224219
(I am unsure if there is an online submission page for complaints. Likely not since they would be flooded with complaints about Bell).

So that is how you do it with Bell Canada and the wet noodle CMA.

Enjoy.

Please provide feed-back to us here after 6-weeks if you continue to get junk and you subscribed to the wet noodle CMA do Not Contact program that is "strictly enforced to their standards and code of ethics.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23291018 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:35:13 EDT Re: How to stop Bell from sending postal junk mail? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23291013
If it's the mail that Bell sent to you directly, but it doesn't have your name on it (eg: To: Occupant), then it won't stop either.
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Disclaimer: If I express an opinion, it is my own opinion, not that of Bell or its related companies.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23291013 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:33:17 EDT Re: How to stop Bell from sending postal junk mail? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23290971 addressed to the previous occupant. Bell won't print a return
address on those letters but i can tell where they come from
because the enveloppes aren't totally opaque. I can't bring it
back to the local post office as there's no return address and
Bell ignores the addressee every time she cares to explain to
them that she moved and cancelled all of her Bell services!...

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23290971 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:24:09 EDT Re: How to stop Bell from sending postal junk mail? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23290796 Save it up. When we're out shopping or whatever drop by the Local Office and give it all back. Help them recycle the crap. Tell them we don't need it so maybe they'd like to send it someone else.
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I also had a spammy phone call from somebody claiming to be Bell at 844 704 2622]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23280838 Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:39:19 EDT How to stop Bell from sending postal junk mail? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23280645
Thanks!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/How-to-stop-Bell-from-sending-postal-junk-mail-23280645 Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:53:14 EDT