http://www.dslreports.com/forum/95869-to-register-a-used-car-today-here-in-NY-23281107 en Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:07:14 EDT Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:07:14 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-95869-to-register-a-used-car-today-here-in-NY-23454848 --
Leepu!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-95869-to-register-a-used-car-today-here-in-NY-23454848 Tue, 08 Dec 2009 04:29:15 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-95869-to-register-a-used-car-today-here-in-NY-23454843

You have to wonder - where do all those clean air fees go?
Do you suppose any of it actually goes to cleaning the air?
Are the various agencies building air cleaning plants? ;-)
I would have to doubt it. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-95869-to-register-a-used-car-today-here-in-NY-23454843 Tue, 08 Dec 2009 04:26:42 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-95869-to-register-a-used-car-today-here-in-NY-23345427 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-95869-to-register-a-used-car-today-here-in-NY-23345427 Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:42:36 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-95869-to-register-a-used-car-today-here-in-NY-23325298 said by M A R K:

THATS INSANE!!! F-THAT!!

My 1981 Volvo 244, 5speed, cost was $500, NYS Tax form filled out by other owner, $75 Stated, Insurance is $495 a year, Inspection is $14 ( safety only ) But now i know ill have to pay more soon with the new plates coming out. But i think it cost me around $21 as i transferd the plates over.
I love living in NY..Specifically here on eastern Long Island but these increases being mandated on us during these difficult economic times is leading me to think more and more about moving elsewhere. :( We already pay some of the highest property taxes and utilities in the country but yet it seems not a week goes by without us all hearing of another corrupt politician living high on the hog off of taxpayers money or a lawyer getting on a school payroll so he or she can get a NY State retirement and on and on it goes....

Anyway, regarding the new fee for NY license plates.

Drivers required to buy new license plates

An additional fee adopted in this year's state budget is inspiring a lot of road rage. Starting in April 2010, all drivers in New York will be required to buy brand new license plates at $25 a set, regardless of whether they're driving a new car or not. That's $10 more than the current price. If you want to keep your same license plate number, it will cost you another $20. "Why? Why do we need new plates?" asked Larry Hughes of Onondaga Hill.

The state claims this is for safety because the reflectivity on many of the license plates issued in 2001 has worn out. But what about states like Delaware that have had the same plates since 1970? "I think it's another way for the state to get more money," said Frazier Hunt of Skaneateles.

He's absolutely right. There are 12 million registered drivers in the state, and the State Department of Motor Vehicles estimates this will bring in $129 million. Senator John DeFrancisco tells Action News the money should come from cutting spending, saying: "This is just one of more than 100 fees that were adopted in last year's budget to satisfy the insatiable desire of New York City Democrat state leaders to spend the money of hard-working New Yorkers."

License and registration fees will also go up 25%. Starting September 1st, the price of a driver's license will increase from $50 to $62.50. Drivers at the D.M.V. say the timing couldn't be worse. "With the economy and no jobs and stuff like that, and job losses, I'm on unemployment right now to tell you the truth, I can barely afford it," said Jermaine Sterling of Syracuse.

"People are hurting now, people are just scraping to get by," Hughes said. "Why should they have to buy new plates if they don't need them?"

Drivers won't have to run out and buy new plates on April 1st. The update will take place over a two-year period as drivers renew their registrations

»www.cnycentral.com/news/story.aspx?id=333453]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-95869-to-register-a-used-car-today-here-in-NY-23325298 Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:40:07 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-95869-to-register-a-used-car-today-here-in-NY-23324216
All things old are new again...
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My 1981 Volvo 244, 5speed, cost was $500, NYS Tax form filled out by other owner, $75 Stated, Insurance is $495 a year, Inspection is $14 ( safety only ) But now i know ill have to pay more soon with the new plates coming out. But i think it cost me around $21 as i transferd the plates over.

New NY Plates

The car

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-95869-to-register-a-used-car-today-here-in-NY-23323944 Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:38:58 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-95869-to-register-a-used-car-today-here-in-NY-23311934 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-95869-to-register-a-used-car-today-here-in-NY-23311934 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:46:26 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-95869-to-register-a-used-car-today-here-in-NY-23311906
Vehicle Type: 2005 BMW X5
VIN: 5xxxxxxxxxxx
Mileage: 60,000
Private Value: $19,750.00
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irc.removed.us - #dslr]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-95869-to-register-a-used-car-today-here-in-NY-23307144 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:57:46 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-95869-to-register-a-used-car-today-here-in-NY-23306323 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-95869-to-register-a-used-car-today-here-in-NY-23306323 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 12:57:48 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-95869-to-register-a-used-car-today-here-in-NY-23304697
Chances are that Fort Bend simply went with your value since it was over what the state believes the car is worth. Have you tried entering your VIN and mileage on the site to see what the SPV shows for you? I've played with it by putting in the VIN and mileage of some of the cars I own, and the state always seems to show a much lower value than what I could get if I sold the car to a private party (or even a dealer with enough haggling).
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I know about that law since my friend who resides in Harris County cannot just put down value on the Title Transfer form...

The lady who did my title transfer didn't ask any question at all... so i guess they are not following rules there..
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-95869-to-register-a-used-car-today-here-in-NY-23303971 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:39:09 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-95869-to-register-a-used-car-today-here-in-NY-23303828 said by Fobulous:

Got it. The bill of sale is required in the State of Texas as well but it varies greatly in different counties. In Fort Bend County where i live they are pretty lax on that part.. they actually go by whatever i put down for the "Transfer of Title" form. You can imagine what kind of possibilities there are :)
This is incorrect as of 2006, when the state government mandated that its list of automobile values must be used: »www.txdmv.gov/vehicles/titles/st···alue.htm
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irc.removed.us - #dslr]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-95869-to-register-a-used-car-today-here-in-NY-23303828 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:06:27 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-95869-to-register-a-used-car-today-here-in-NY-23299693 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-95869-to-register-a-used-car-today-here-in-NY-23299693 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:56:19 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-95869-to-register-a-used-car-today-here-in-NY-23294729 used vehicle is over 2500.00

When I bought my used F-250 Diesel this year It cost about
40.00 to get the plates for the truck.. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-95869-to-register-a-used-car-today-here-in-NY-23294729 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 05:56:06 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-95869-to-register-a-used-car-today-here-in-NY-23288722 --
Brian

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Still better than someplace like CT or NC, two states I know of that collect a yearly property tax on autos.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-95869-to-register-a-used-car-today-here-in-NY-23287561 Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:11:35 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-95869-to-register-a-used-car-today-here-in-NY-23286485 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-95869-to-register-a-used-car-today-here-in-NY-23286485 Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:44:06 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-95869-to-register-a-used-car-today-here-in-NY-23286413 said by Fobulous:

In Texas:

For any purchases new or used 6.25% tax.

I am assuming you are talking about the first time when you register for the car not the annual vehicle permit thingie? That thing costs about $78 year here in Texas..
Yes, the first time fee's. My annual fee from now for the car will be $34.40 but had to pay yesterday $958.69.

By reading the replies seems NY is not that far out of the ballpark compared to other states.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-95869-to-register-a-used-car-today-here-in-NY-23286413 Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:35:15 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-95869-to-register-a-used-car-today-here-in-NY-23286360 said by Fir_Na_Tine:

New Jersey is like that. I bought my friends 87' Blazer years ago for $7500 and had to pay taxes on it (6%). We tried to write up to bills of sale, one for the purchase price and another for $1 to try and get out of paying the tax. But the state sent me a letter saying they were going to send someone out to appraise the truck. So I had to pay the taxes on the actual purchase price. Although I registered it as a wagon instead of a truck and it saved me $100.

Please no lectures on how I tried to avoid paying taxes and I am a bad person for it , everybody that buys something online and doesn't report it is doing same thing.
Up until recently here in NY it was quite common to hear of buyers getting a bill of sale by the seller indicating a much lower price than actually paid. But what I understand now is if the vehicle is less than 10 years old the DMV will check the NADA guide and if the bill of sale you present is way below that they will give you two choices:

1) Either pay sales tax on what the clerk tells you to pay going by the NADA guide if you want to complete the transaction and get your plates today or

2) Take a form back to the seller and have them check off they sold you the car for less than book value. And both buyer and seller must sign that form. And then you must make another trip back to the DMV.

Its my understanding that many are just paying up on the spot after being presented with the two options above in order to get their plates and get out the door as fast as possible.

I personally have no problem with paying my fair share of taxes but again, I feel the procedure to charge sales tax every time the car changes hands in just not fair.

In my case yesterday on a used vehicle for $8,750 I am just shy of paying another $1,000 to just legally get plates for it..Not to mention insurance cost and emissions/safety inspection...I would think it adds to the practice of many driving with an unregistered vehicle.
And when I think of how many times I read of someone locally getting ticketed driving an unregistered vehicle I have to wonder maybe some feel its worth not going through the legal way with the high cost involved. Its not like they go to jail for driving an unregistered vehicle..They basically pay a fine which probably is way less than what I paid yesterday to register my used vehicle...

With more and more states across the country in dire need of money I believe many more will raise fees to register a car just like NY raised its fees this past September. I believe Florida adds on a $200.00 fee to register a vehicle for the first time unless you are transferring tags from one registered vehicle to another.

It is always we the consumer who get to pay for others being financially irresponsible. :mad:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-95869-to-register-a-used-car-today-here-in-NY-23286360 Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:26:04 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-95869-to-register-a-used-car-today-here-in-NY-23285752 But you can get any used motor vehicle dealer to do an appraisal on it and you only pay tax on that or the purchase price receipt which is of course low. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-95869-to-register-a-used-car-today-here-in-NY-23285752 Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:34:48 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-95869-to-register-a-used-car-today-here-in-NY-23284782
Please no lectures on how I tried to avoid paying taxes and I am a bad person for it , everybody that buys something online and doesn't report it is doing same thing.
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For any purchases new or used 6.25% tax.

I am assuming you are talking about the first time when you register for the car not the annual vehicle permit thingie? That thing costs about $78 year here in Texas..
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We do not have a personal property tax on vehicles though, which is very nice.

It would only be double taxation if you had the pay the tax more than once for one transaction (sale). Since that it not happening...
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If you buy a new car here in NY you pay sales tax on it..Then if you sell it a year later the person buying it from you pays sales tax again on the selling price and so if the vehicle has 6 different owners over a period of time each owner must pay sales tax on the purchase price...There are gift exemptions but my post is dealing with the fact that even though the vehicle if used you still must pay sales tax on the purchase price...

So today I take the bill of sale showing purchase price of $8,750.00 ( I didn't buy the car locally but from another state and had it trucked to me )..I take a copy of my proof of insurance that was emailed to me while still on the phone with my insurance company adding the vehicle to my policy, my filled out forms including registering and putting in for a NY title and the clear title from the party I purchased the vehicle from in Chicago..

NY as of September raised all their motor vehicle fees and I won't break down all the different fees but the total I had to pay today was $ 958.69 out the door..NY Sales tax and the other fees involved in registering and getting plates for a vehicle..That includes a two year registration based on a yearly cost of $34.50...They gave me the plates and a 10 temp sticker for emissions testing..That must be done within 10 days and that cost will add another $37.50 to the total.

So how is it where you live? What state do you live in and do you have to pay sales tax on a used vehicle along with other registration fees? Would you know what it would cost you to register a used car with a sale price of $8,750.00 in your state?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/95869-to-register-a-used-car-today-here-in-NY-23281107 Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:31:34 EDT