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Radar E 33

join:2009-10-16
Canada

ADSL in rural areas?

Hi guys. Recently saw an ad on google that advertised that there was wireless internet from Acanac. Although the google ad was completely inaccurate, i did see a promo for ADSL broadband. I read the description of the service and it stated that this service uses "traditional" telephone lines to deliver internet.

While that's fine and dandy, i'm not sure that regular old phone lines can provide that service. Especially to Utopia (which is 3km from Barrie). Am i wrong in assuming that "traditional" phone lines can only deliver 56k speeds? I'd like to think i'm wrong, as my Rogers portable internet service is erratic (downloads are up and down and latency is through the roof) and i would like to get something more stable. Can anyone clarify?


twizlar
I dont think so.
Premium
join:2003-12-24
Brantford, ON

Realistically it depends where your phone line is connected. The closest CO is in Angus and does have high speed available, you would be too far for CO only ADSL though, not sure if there are remotes available nearby. Your best bet would be to check with Bell.ca or one of the third party providers.
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Radar E 33

join:2009-10-16
Canada
my number is 424, so i guess its going to Angus... Need to find out how far angus is from me. My guess is its only 6-8km from me. Though if i remember correctly, there is a rogers switching station just up the road from me.


twizlar
I dont think so.
Premium
join:2003-12-24
Brantford, ON
Just check your address/phone number on bell.ca

Radar E 33

join:2009-10-16
Canada

it can't find my number on the site... I did a rough measure on google maps, and if the CO is in Angus, then i have 6km of telephone line to go through. If its in Barrie though, then it'll be only 3-4km. Sucks being in between Barrie and Angus for ADSL i guess :P


twizlar
I dont think so.
Premium
join:2003-12-24
Brantford, ON
Its at least 6Km from the angus Co to the Utopia cross roads. I have no idea if remotes are located anywhere though.
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Radar E 33

join:2009-10-16
Canada
i'm on 8th, near 25th sideroad... its not far from Angus. I know there's a rogers switcher on 25th near me. I do believe bell traffic goes through it as well. Hopefully i can get this.


twizlar
I dont think so.
Premium
join:2003-12-24
Brantford, ON
Ah, no chance really out that far.

Radar E 33

join:2009-10-16
Canada
wait, define remote... is it like a grey box that techies can screw around with? There's one like that right at the corner of 25th side road and the 8th line, only a couple hundred meters from my house.


jfmezei
Premium
join:2007-01-03
Beaconsfield, QC
·ELECTRONICBOX


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No, he is talking about a "real" remote *CO", not a remote patch panel.

More information at:

»www.telcodata.us/telcodata/switc···DON20RS1

People in large cities would rarely see those (although they may exist, but not be in a usual bunker.

These "remotes" are like a fortified hut, no windows. The generator hookup on the side of the remote, as well as the numeric keypad for the one door are the telltale signs.


jfmezei
Premium
join:2007-01-03
Beaconsfield, QC
·ELECTRONICBOX

from:
»www.privateline.com/archive/NTte···y101.pdf

Remote Access Vehicles
Digital remote access vehicles provide a cost-effective solution to this limitation. By consolidating traffic from hundreds—even thousands—of subscribers onto a small number of DS-1 or fiber-optic facilities, they significantly enhance the reach of the central office and reduce the cost of serving remote subscribers. The Northern Telecom Remote Switching Center-S can, for instance, consolidate the traffic of over 10,000 lines onto just 16 DS-1 trunks.

Crucial to the strategies necessary for entering new markets, remote access vehicles can deliver most, if not all, of the features available at the central office—to sites up to 100 or 150 miles from the host office. Some remotes can, in fact, now deliver the full portfolio of services up to 500 miles from the serving office. This enables new market entrants to deploy a relatively small number of central offices targeted to penetrate a wide range of service areas.
Traditionally, network providers have deployed two types of remote access vehicles:

Switch Remotes
Remote access vehicles that have on-board intelligence to provide intraswitching capabilities and emergency standalone. Intraswitching reduces costs by allowing calls between users served by the same remote to be switched at the remote itself, rather than using host resources. Emergency standalone allows calling between users served by the remote to continue even if the links to the host office are cut or if the host office experiences a failure.
Switch remotes are economical for applications as low as 200 and as high as 15,000 lines.

Digital Loop Carriers
DLCs have traditionally provided an economical way to serve typical subscriber loops by multiplexing many lines onto a small number of DS-1 trunks back to the host. Next generation DLCs—with programmable line cards that allow providers to respond quickly in areas where there is a lot of service churn, with SONET and TR-303 interfaces, and with fiber in the loop capabilities—are rapidly becoming key tools in addressing the needs of sophisticated Information Age business customers. Driven by the rapidly falling costs of fiber optic systems, many DLCs now connect the host through state-of-the-art SONET interfac

olebiker

join:2008-04-16
Glenburnie, ON
reply to Radar E 33
I am further away from kingston than you are from Barrie and do have DSL. The only way to know is check with Bell.

Radar E 33

join:2009-10-16
Canada

i talked to them today. I kept asking about ADSL and they kept talking about DSL... anyway...

They said "the service isn't available in your area" and that there were no remotes in my area. I'll have to call Acanac to confirm, cause the online chat guy had an indian name, so its possible he wasn't familiar with my area or knew what ADSL was.

Radar E 33

join:2009-10-16
Canada


1 edit
reply to olebiker
i talked to them today. I kept asking about ADSL and they kept talking about DSL... anyway...

They said "the service isn't available in your area" and that there were no remotes in my area. I'll have to call Acanac to confirm, cause the online chat guy had an indian name, so its possible he wasn't familiar with my area or knew what ADSL was.

EDIT: sorry about the double post, it said i wasn't signed in

dslrocker3

join:2002-05-26
Toronto

reply to Radar E 33
said by Radar E 33 See Profile :

i talked to them today. I kept asking about ADSL and they kept talking about DSL... anyway...
ADSL is DSL. Asynchronous DSL is just one form of DSL. They aren't 2 different things.


grayfox

join:2007-12-10
Whitby, ON
reply to Radar E 33
If your in a rual area there's a good chance a WISP is your only choice for high speed.
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