Gnome
@telus.net
|  [BC] RIAA MPAA extortion letters
It seems Telus is wasting no time in attacking their own customers now that most of them are locked into multi year contracts and can not quite without paying an absurd
penalty.
The usual RIAA extortion letters are going out to customers caught using peer too
peer software and downloading as little as a single movie!
The example I have is a landlord that provides free Internet to his Tennant who is being held responsible for their downloading behaviour.
I personally know he has no idea how to download anything let alone use peer 2 peer utilities ........I have explained he has no chance for justice or clearing his name
as the RIAA/MPAA will simply sue regardless of guilt or proof.
I'm wondering how many customer defections it will take to make a difference?
Count me as one! |
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WackyGaru
join:2009-02-10
Grande Prairie, AB | This isn't news, it's been happening for a long time. All it is a form letter sent out with no follow up. |
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zalternate
join:2007-02-22
BC
 ·TELUS
2 edits | reply to Gnome
If we still had our Constitutional right of Innocence in this country and our legal system(courts and Judges) was not by-passed by any thug with money.
Heres the problem. In true legal terms, The CopyRight Mafia would have to prove the 'actual user' who did the downloading. Right now all the Mafia has is an IP. And anyone could be using that IP, even some person on the street in front of an apartment building.
And the Mafia would also need some hard evidence to get a warrant to invade your house to search your computer for the 'actual' files. So is an IP enough for a warrant? Many say No.
And as noted in the states, People have had the Mafia steal their computers and search them. Remembering that the Police are supposed to be the ones in charge of the investigation and Not the Mafia. So your computer must only be held and searched by the Police and not the Mafia. Thats a major legal point.
Lets not forget that the police don't like doing cyber crime investigations. And if they could just pass off the investigation to the Mafia,,, Which would be 100% illegal.
Then the Mafia is also by-passing the courts by sending out notes that either say , "You have been caught downloading, so don't do it again". Or the Mafia sends an extortion letter to the IP owners address, demanding thousands of dollars in restitution for a crime that there is no court enforceable proof that you did the downloading/uploading. Many people ignore the Extortion letter and nothing happens. But to show how the legal system is fracked up, the two that went to court were railroaded into ignorant fine amounts.
The ISP legally, should never give your name out without a court enforceable warrant. Even though the Police of Canada are close to warrant-less information gathering.
Remember that each song costs 99 cents online. And the Mafia has no proof that anyone, other than the person who downloaded from you, downloaded the songs.
Next legal point is that many people who use file sharing programs, don't know that the shared folder is by default, open to being looked into for files to share online. A couple of days ago some idiot government worker took home some work and put it into the shared folder. And a file sharing application was on the computer. It exposed some information of government corruption.
Have a read on the latest push to remove your rights.
»www.michaelgeist.ca/
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JammerMan79
Premium,VIP
join:2004-05-13
Prince George, BC | reply to Gnome
nothing new to see here... keep on walking |
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CR123
join:2006-11-04
Vancouver, BC
| reply to Gnome
Just to be clear: TELUS is only passing on to you that the RIAA/MPAA has contacted them about your IP. There's a reminder on the letter to follow the Terms of Service. That's all. All ISP's do (or should do) this - if they receive any correspondence of this sort dealing with your IP address, they should pass it on to you.
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beachside
join:2009-06-28
| said by CR123  :Just to be clear: TELUS is only passing on to you that the RIAA/MPAA has contacted them about your IP. There's a reminder on the letter to follow the Terms of Service. That's all. All ISP's do (or should do) this - if they receive any correspondence of this sort dealing with your IP address, they should pass it on to you. To be even more clear, Telus is not passing ANY of your information back to the RIAA/MPAA. |
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zod5000
join:2003-10-21
Edmonton, AB
·TELUS
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| reply to Gnome
+5
Telus has been sending out these letters for years. It's a form letter they send out, which basically means they were notified by the RIAA/MPAA about your ip address download/uploading pirated material. They don't give out any of your info.
A few years back I think the CRIAA tried to find a way to force Canadian ISP's to give up that info, but they couldn't. They still need a warrant for telus to release the info, which means they need proof, which an IP address by itself isn't proof. |
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Telus User
@telus.net
| reply to Gnome
Ya - I have received 2 of these notices in the last 2 years. Totally my fault as I forgot to ban bad trackers from my torrents. Anyways - as mentioned - nothing to be concerned about unless Telus gets a massive amount of complaints about that IP then they will contact the owner of the account attached to that I at the time.
Still - finding out who actually uses the IP is the next game. Doesn't mean there is any proof that YOU have done anything wrong.
Although - it IS kind of like car insurance. If my friend crashes MY car - then I AM responsible for who was using my car. I will be held liable for costs etc.
Same idea - they can prove the IP is attached to YOUR modem - and if you are the account holder and are unable to control who connects and uses your connection they might have to take you off line.... |
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chronoss2009
join:2008-09-23
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| reply to Gnome
dum dee dum dum
the new word of the day is
BLANK MEDIA LEVY
1st go get defination of media
then send that in a self addressed envelop to whomever sends the letter
OF course add the legal definition of slander , libel and harassment in and from your local jurisdiction.
ENJOY this early christmas present brought to you by your friendly neighborhood.....
PIRATE
pirate man , pirate man does pirating where ever he can, hey there , there goes the pirate man..... |
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CR123
join:2006-11-04
Vancouver, BC
1 edit | said by chronoss2009 : then send that in a self addressed envelop to whomever sends the letter wait, what?
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