Need advice buying a bike in General Questions

Need advice buying a bike in General Questions http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r23288676 en Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:54:03 EDT Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:54:03 EDT Re: Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23309224 Grumpy : Guilty of not reading every prior post, part 913:

Another vote for buying a bike at least a notch above giant box store choices. If a cheap bike has even minor issues, like occasional hard shifting, it will be anything less than enjoyable to ride.

One of the issues with used bikes is worn out sprockets. On the other hand, it is very possible to find a great used bike, as in some decide not to keep bikes, or upgrade etc.

Don't know if your timing or location work out for this, but if you are near a college or boarding school, it's not unusual to find incredible deal on bikes that the departing students do not want to transport to their next location. Bought a high end pair of home audio speakers for $3 that way. They sure sound good in my cellar workshop. ;-)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23309224 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:46:09 EDT Re: Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23306944 PCInTech : Hybrids have the larger wheel size (700C) of a road bike but a mountain bike frame, though lighter in weight. Components, like shifting, transmission, braking, are like road bikes, though. Cool compromise in an urban environment. PM me if you want more advice. I'm INTO bikes.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23306944 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:59:38 EDT Re: Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23306831 Fir_Na_Tine : not bad, I'll look into them. I think a Hybrid bike is what would work for me,, something for off-road and road. My brothers is more mountain bike than road. He trash picked a few road bikes and rehabbed them though. Thanks for the info
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»www.dynamicbicycles.com/

This is a technology that interests me, but, too expensive once you add on the options you want.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23306796 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:14:05 EDT Re: Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23306735 Fir_Na_Tine : His bike is 5 years old or more and still holding up great. I have to save money up first but 500-700 will be my range I think. I would ride all year long too, I work outdoors so cold doesn't bother me much.
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-Jimi Hendrix]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23306735 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:56:53 EDT Re: Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23306528 PCInTech : Specialized has a very good line! Get a bike of your own, you won't regret it. Of course, being in NJ, your "riding season" is as short as mine, but it's still fun. I actually ride pretty much all year long, just put on my Winter tires on my Fuji.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23306528 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:50:09 EDT Re: Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23306516 Fir_Na_Tine : Interesting thread with some sound advice. My brother has a Specialized Hardrock that I borrow from time to time and it seems like a decent bike. I been thinking of getting my own to get into shape and be more active and got some good ideas here, thanks
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-Jimi Hendrix]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23306516 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:44:59 EDT Re: Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23306379 PCInTech :

said by Matt

said by slyphoxj

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As for buying a used bike off of Craigslist... is there any way to make sure that I wouldn't be inadvertently buying stolen goods?

Have them send you the serial number off the bike and check it with the local police department.

Yea, you've GOT to watch bikes on Craigslist! Checking the NYC listings, it turns out that well over 80% are HOT. Beware.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23306379 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:15:02 EDT Re: Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23305814 PCInTech : As I noted earlier, my beloved Fuji bike is my favorite. :) Funny you mention Jamis, I ALMOST got one when I got this Raleigh, but the dealer (who sold both) didn't have my size in the comparable Jamis town bike.

This is my baby. Got it from Ellen Degeneres, actually. A few weeks after Oprah gave away cars to everyone in her audience, Ellen gave away Fuji bikes. But, I was just about to buy one anyway.

»www.bikepedia.com/QuickBike/Bike···ype=bike

Also have one of these, Raleigh C30, which is like new and for sale. Excellent bike, I just like the Fuji better, which I got for free shortly after I just bought this one. So, it's got only about 10 miles on it.

»www.bikepedia.com/QuickBike/Bike···ype=bike]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23305814 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:40:01 EDT Re: Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23305256 jeremyv : Did anyone mentioned Fuji or Jamis already?

»www.jamisbikes.com/

»www.fujibikes.com/

You can never go wrong with those brands and you can get a good deal for your $500]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23305256 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 04:05:43 EDT Re: Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23304807 Matt :

said by slyphoxj

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As for buying a used bike off of Craigslist... is there any way to make sure that I wouldn't be inadvertently buying stolen goods?

Have them send you the serial number off the bike and check it with the local police department.
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And oh lordy, the inner tubes and flats I've been through!!

I most likely would have gotten one this year had I not have been looking for, and not bought, a home this summer.

Can anyone here recommend a good local bike shop in the western Cleveland 'burbs or the west side of Cleveland?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23304705 Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:02:06 EDT Re: Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23297808 bent :

said by nonymous

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Unless you are a pro tell me the true difference between a well made few year old model and this years greatest model.

That's not what's at issue here, though. The issue is the difference between the bottom end of what bike shops sell and the top end of what Walmart sells. I've never owned a Walmart bike, but I have a friend whos family bought him one for his birthday. It weighed at least 15 more pounds than my 15 year old entry level Cannondale. When we went out riding he couldn't keep up with me even though he's younger and in better shape. The rims would never stay true and the cables would always pull out from under the adjustment nuts on both the brakes and the rear derailleur. He gave up on it after a handful of rides and bought an entry level Fisher. The low end Fishers aren't what they used to be, but they're still far superior to the Walmart bike. He hasn't had problem #1 with that bike.
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said by nonymous

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People have way too much money to go to a bike dealership.

I don't have way too much money if I did I'd be paying off my mortgage.

Regardless. When I was young when I bought my Schwinn I saved for months. I knew I can buy another POS from big box store. Where the handle bar became lose even thought I torque it as much as I could. Or save more a quality built Bike. There were MORE expensive bikes but the one I bought was right for me. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23297765 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:57:20 EDT Re: Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23297494 PCInTech :

said by nonymous

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People have way too much money to go to a bike dealership.
There are two classes of people now broke WalMart then rich people. Manufacturers now cater to both. Either cheap Chinese crap or American made then just charge dumb amounts because they know someone with money will overpay for anything.
Unless you are a pro tell me the true difference between a well made few year old model and this years greatest model. A few ounces, maybe something slightly different on the gears. Unless you are a pro you are not going to notice the difference. Manufacturers know you are paying for a status symbol more than a bike after some point. You have a dealership not a bike shop. Probably a service area where they can gouge on repairs. Keep it overnight and see if it rides the same in the morning.
Seriously have prices changed that much in say the last 10years. I bought a decent American made bike for less than $400 around 2001.

I assure you, I am far from rich, living well below poverty level. But, I know the difference between quality and crap. You learn something in over 56 years on this planet. "Cheap you pay, cheap you get". If you can't tell the difference between a $100. Walmart bike and one from a bike shop, then perhaps you should visit the Walmart Optical Dept, that's where I get MY glasses. There's a vast difference in the quality of rims, tires, tubes, dérailleurs, brakes, frame assembly and just about every component imaginable. How much is your safety worth? My wife, a couple of years ago, went to Walmart and bought a cheapie bike, without consulting me, so she could go riding with me. The very first time she took it out, she got one block away and one of the pedals sheared off right at the crank. Also, the brakes jammed and wouldn't release. These two things were due, without a DOUBT, to the cheap quality of those components, ones I'd NEVER put on a bike! She went flying and was hurt very badly, having to go to the Emergency Room. The cheap rims bent so badly they couldn't be repaired. The front fork bent out and the bike became instant junk. This adventure wound up costing far more than it would if she bought a GOOD bike from a reputable dealer who would never have let it out the door. Some things in life you don't "cheap out" on. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23297494 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:07:21 EDT Re: Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23297396 elbm :

said by nonymous

I have never been accused of having way too much money. I have never raced a bike. I am 45, 20lbs over weight and put about 1500 miles per year on my road bike and yes there are significant differences in bikes. I can assure there is noticeable ride difference in my 6 year old 1200.00 aluminium/carbon bike and your 400.00 bike-- as much as there is between my 6 year old bike and the one I bought this year 2300.00. The efficiency and power transfer is substantial better on the new bike. The new bike is drastically stiffer than my old bike-- on the old bike on a steep climb I could distort the frame enough to bring the chain into the derailleur. New bike-- no matter how steep and how much power I develop there is no movement of the bottom bracket. Control and stability are worlds apart between my two most recent bikes. I could go on.

Neither of my bikes are expensive in the big scheme of things though they were for me. I did with out things and saved to be able to afford a better quality bike that I do truly do appreciate for what it is-- a marvel of modern tech. There is no status, ego, flashy bike clothes, group rides, racing or snobbery. I ride alone with my gps and carve many wonderful miles on a wonderful machine.

Don't talk about things you don't understand.

Edit: punctuation]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23297396 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:49:16 EDT Re: Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23297176 Matt : I was recommending a hybrid or mountain bike too. I totally forgot that local bike shops probably sell them also. Cycles De Oro and Revolution are good shops, but I've never bothered to look for anything but road bikes with them. So *I* apologize for the misunderstanding.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23297176 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:17:54 EDT Re: Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23297173 nonymous : People have way too much money to go to a bike dealership.
There are two classes of people now broke WalMart then rich people. Manufacturers now cater to both. Either cheap Chinese crap or American made then just charge dumb amounts because they know someone with money will overpay for anything.
Unless you are a pro tell me the true difference between a well made few year old model and this years greatest model. A few ounces, maybe something slightly different on the gears. Unless you are a pro you are not going to notice the difference. Manufacturers know you are paying for a status symbol more than a bike after some point. You have a dealership not a bike shop. Probably a service area where they can gouge on repairs. Keep it overnight and see if it rides the same in the morning.
Seriously have prices changed that much in say the last 10years. I bought a decent American made bike for less than $400 around 2001.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23297173 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:16:59 EDT Re: Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23297136 PCInTech : The OP wasn't looking for a HQ road bike, (I don't think he's planning on tackling Tour De France THIS year, at least.) just recreational bike. I was recommending hybrid or mountain bikes for that reason. :) Sorry for the misunderstanding. I just checked w/ De Oro and Revolution near you.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23297136 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:10:42 EDT Re: Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23297090 Matt :

said by PCInTech

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It must be your area, Matt. Is it a tourist area, or "upscale"? I checked two local dealers and several models were in the 300-500 price range, from name manufacturers. Several sizes available, and ready to drive out of the showroom. So, this has got to be a local thing where you are.

No, not a touristy area at all. Just a normal middle-class area. Can you give some examples of the brand and model? I think we may be talking about different classes of road bikes. You can get nice mountain or hybrid bikes in that price range, but not a high quality road bike.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23297090 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:03:28 EDT Re: Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23297068 PCInTech :

said by Matt

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I assure you I did look closely. We have several chain and locally owned bike stores in this area. Some had none for less than $800, used included. For $300-$500 you're not getting anything that is this year's model, unless it's a no-name. Even the no-name hybrid bikes from REI start at $300. You might find a 2009 model on close-out online starting at $500, but good luck finding it in your size.

Whether the OP will be able to find a reasonably priced bike at a bike shop is going to be totally dependent on what bike shops he has near him. My guess is, he's not going to find anything at a bike shop in his price range.

It must be your area, Matt. Is it a tourist area, or "upscale"? I checked two local dealers and several models were in the 300-500 price range, from name manufacturers. Several sizes available, and ready to drive out of the showroom. So, this has got to be a local thing where you are.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23297068 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:59:03 EDT Re: Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23297032 Matt :

said by PCInTech

said by Matt

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I've looked at several bike shops and was unable to find anything in the $200-$300 range. $500 was about where the bikes you mentioned start.

I assure you I did look closely. We have several chain and locally owned bike stores in this area. Some had none for less than $800, used included. For $300-$500 you're not getting anything that is this year's model, unless it's a no-name. Even the no-name hybrid bikes from REI start at $300. You might find a 2009 model on close-out online starting at $500, but good luck finding it in your size.

Whether the OP will be able to find a reasonably priced bike at a bike shop is going to be totally dependent on what bike shops he has near him. My guess is, he's not going to find anything at a bike shop in his price range.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23297032 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:50:28 EDT Re: Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23296903 PCInTech :

said by Matt

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I've looked at several bike shops and was unable to find anything in the $200-$300 range. $500 was about where the bikes you mentioned start.

Then you haven't looked very closely. ;) The MSRP may start at $500., but I'm talking dealer street price. Also, the OP said up to $500. $200-300. would be a stretch for the latest "this year's model", but just over $300. there's far more possibilities.

Did you physically walk into a bike shop, or just looking at online? Just like buying a car, it's a world of difference.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23296903 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:25:53 EDT Re: Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23296831 PCInTech : Yes! Used bikes from a bike shop are frequently a VERY good deal. People who trade into a bike shop have usually taken VERY good care of their transportation. And, you know it's going to be setup and adjusted correctly for you by an experienced mechanic.

Another idea, is that many bike dealerships have not yet put out the 2010 models, and will have very good deals on 2009's (or even 2008's!) brand new with full warranty. And, while I mention it, there's another reason to buy a bicycle from a real bike dealer. Warranty is a critical thing on a bicycle. The major quality brands take this seriously and will take care of you. That's why they choose not to sell through big box stores.

A bicycle is a vehicle, not a toy. As such, there are safety issues that can mean the difference between surviving a malfunction or being seriously hurt or killed. I ride my Fuji Crosstown Hybrid everywhere, as I choose not to drive. I know it's dependable and won't leave me by the side of the road, many miles from home.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23296831 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:12:45 EDT Re: Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23296754 Lazlow : Most good bike shops will have a selection of used bikes for pretty cheap(sub $250). There are tons of people out there that trade their bikes every two years (like cars). These bikes are usually the same brand names (Trek/Cannondale etc) just a couple of years older.

I would also agree with the poster above who suggested a mountain bike with slick tires. They (and their tires) are much more durable and handle the streets (curbs, broken bottles, tree limbs) much better than the road bikes. Also keep in mind that your child is just starting to ride. Lots of kids ride until they are at least 16 (many much longer).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23296754 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:57:27 EDT Re: Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23296710 elbm : I bought the 4.5 which is an Asian made frame and I ended up about 2300 out the door. Once you get two models above mine the frames are made in the USA. But the cost jump prohibitively significant for me and I bought as high as I could afford. Next round I will move up.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23296710 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:46:18 EDT Re: Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23296624 PCInTech :

said by elbm

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Aside to avid riders-- I made the plunge this year and bought a new road bike a Trek Madone full carbon bike.

Which series did you get? Are the higher end Treks still made in USA, or are they Chinese like the lower end models? I know they've gone through some changes lately.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23296624 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:31:57 EDT Re: Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23296479 elbm : We are a riding family-- and you do get what you pay for. I have bought piles of bikes over the years for me and my kids. I started 25+ years ago with a 150.00 bike from Montgomery Wards-- first time I tried to go 20 miles it fell apart. I went to a bike shop bought a 600.00 Diamond Back, before they were bought and put in the big box stores. I still have it, it has been riden to death and never needed a major repair. Same with my kids at first big box bikes, they lasted a couple weeks once they started mountain biking with me. Bought them two Treks-- about 550.00 each-- kids were 11&12. 8 Years later we still have them and the kids still ride them. So get something a little better you will enjoy it more, for longer and with less headaches. Might even get the bug.

Aside to avid riders-- I made the plunge this year and bought a new road bike a Trek Madone full carbon bike. I had riden steel, aluminum and Aluminum/carbon all my life and thought them to to be great bikes-- I don't think I can ever go back. Do your self a favor try one.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23296479 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 13:07:32 EDT Re: Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23296212 Gbcue : As others have said, the local bike shop is the best place to start.

I just purchased a $1000 road bike and it's so smooth.

It's got all 105's (for those who want to know).
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said by bent

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#1 Get a mountain bike. You can put street slick tires on it if all you're going to do is ride pavement, and you'll be happier with the lower gearing, more upright riding position, and durability.

Or, get a Hybrid bike (also sometimes called Urban, Commuter or City Bikes), the best of both worlds. An upright riding position, but without the bulk of mountain bike frames. Pavement can be unforgiving, too, with potholes, loose gravel, etc. Plus, you can do light off-road biking, such as park trails. Just a suggestion.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23295767 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:01:55 EDT Re: Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23295741 PCInTech :

said by quatrix

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Are you speaking from experience, or do you just badmouth everything that costs less (even if it's because the company is run more efficiently and doesn't rip off its customers)?

I'm speaking from over 50 years as a cyclist. I've bought all kinds of bikes in my life and witnessed others buying them, also. I've also witnessed many cyclists on cheap bikes getting seriously injured because of cheap components and faulty construction and materials. It doesn't cost that much more to get a quality bike from a real name manufacturer, backed by local bike mechanics. Unless you only have high-end bike shops in your area, you CAN get an entry level quality bike for $350. - $500. that's infinitely better than even the highest priced bike in a deparment store like Walmart. And, that's hardly a "ripoff"! ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23295741 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:56:28 EDT Re: Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23295529 DannyZ : Huffys were solid back then. I've seen Huffys survive things they should not have.

When I thrashed the rear wheel of my $400 Walmart bike and could not get a rear hanger anywhere to rebuild it, I spent $120 on an interim Walmart bike until I could save up enough to purchase a XO-1. That $120 bike lasted all of 3 months before the bottom bracket came apart.

You get what you pay for. My wallet thanked me at checkout, but then it was pissed at me for being penny wise and pound foolish ;)
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Do not waste time with an expensive one. Yardsales, auctions, Craigslist. If you're in a larger town, check the local police auction.

And your wallet will thank you too.

I can't believe the anti-Walmart sentiment here, buncha bike snobs is what you all are. In my day we rode a Huffy from Walmart and we liked it! If we didn't like it, we walked.

By the time I got the one I really wanted (Schwinn Apple Crate) I was damn near old enough to drive, and then I had to start all over.
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»www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes/bi···gator10/

They run about $350 at the bike shops around here.
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said by Cheese

said by dibbb

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It's OK, you're new here, we all misread sometimes. :)

Registered since 2000 is new?

I left off the /s, I knew they knew I was joking.
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They have GREAT Specialized kids bikes. I bought a 16" wheel-size one for my daughter's 3rd birthday - fantastic quality.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23292376 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:27:32 EDT Re: Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23292365 SLD : Please don't feed the Walmarts!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23292365 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:25:35 EDT Re: Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23292303 MIRV : I disagree. Walmart, used, flea market, & hot bikes work just fine and are completely comfortable to ride. They're also much cheaper to buy.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23292303 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:11:51 EDT Re: Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23292209 bent : #1 Get a mountain bike. You can put street slick tires on it if all you're going to do is ride pavement, and you'll be happier with the lower gearing, more upright riding position, and durability.

#2 Buy it from a local bike shop. Almost every major manufacturer makes a decent sub-$500 bike and even if your local shop might not stock them they can measure you and order one to fit. It's like buying a car in some ways, you shouldn't limit yourself to what's on the showroom floor at the time.

#3 Buy it from a local bike shop. They'll be able to fit the bike to you, and that's really really important if you are going to get any pleasure out of riding it at all.

#4 Buy it from a local bike shop. You'll get a bike you know fits you and your needs, and you'll be supporting a local business. Piss on Walmart.
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said by dibbb

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It's OK, you're new here, we all misread sometimes. :)

Registered since 2000 is new?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23291770 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:35:11 EDT Re: Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23291713 Matt :

said by PCInTech

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Go to a bike shop. You'll get a quality bike with components that will last for a very long time and it'll be sized and setup properly. In that price range, you have a lot to choose from. Raleigh, Trek, Fuji, Giant, the list goes on. AVOID the cheap department store bikes like the Plague!

I've looked at several bike shops and was unable to find anything in the $200-$300 range. $500 was about where the bikes you mentioned start.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23291713 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:24:29 EDT Re: Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23291581 quatrix :

said by PCInTech

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So, he might as well get a good bike and not a piece of crap that's going to be in a landfill in a year.

Are you speaking from experience, or do you just badmouth everything that costs less (even if it's because the company is run more efficiently and doesn't rip off its customers)?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23291581 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:03:09 EDT Re: Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23291393 DannyZ : I have the $400 model that Walmart sold a few years ago, so I am aware of the quality of the bike.

Again, try finding a replacement rear hanger at all for that bike, or a reasonably priced 700c bolt on rear wheel.
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said by DannyZ

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If you thrash your rear wheel, good luck finding a rear hanger or a bolt-on 700c rim that costs less than the bike itself. Seriously.

Friends don't let friends buy Walmart bikes.

I would normally agree, but they actually made a good bike when it comes to the Denali bike.
Any other walmart bike I had fell apart in less than a year.
This bike is cheap, durable, and good value.

You can search all over the internet and read the good reviews. »www.amazon.com/GMC-Denali-Road-B···points=1
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So consider carefully how long you really want the bike to last, and what you are going to be doing with it. Those cheapo $150 Walmart bikes might be fine for you, or they might not.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23291017 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:33:42 EDT Re: Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23290907 DannyZ : If you thrash your rear wheel, good luck finding a rear hanger or a bolt-on 700c rim that costs less than the bike itself. Seriously.

Friends don't let friends buy Walmart bikes.
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said by PCInTech

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Dad may also want to do some recreational riding on his own, too, though. This is a good thing. ;)

So, he might as well get a good bike and not a piece of crap that's going to be in a landfill in a year.

thank you someone who understands.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23290834 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:58:00 EDT Re: Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23290831 Warzau : As far as they want to. My 8 yo can easily do 8 miles on our local trail.
They point is get something that he will like and last.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23290831 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:56:27 EDT Re: Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23290821 PCInTech : Dad may also want to do some recreational riding on his own, too, though. This is a good thing. ;)

So, he might as well get a good bike and not a piece of crap that's going to be in a landfill in a year.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23290821 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:55:36 EDT Re: Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23290678 LittlePiggie :

said by Warzau

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Tell the bike store reps what you are going to do and won't do.

He is going to ride along side his kid, how far do you think the kid is going to go?
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$139 - »www.walmart.com/catalog/product.···=3663046
$158 - »www.walmart.com/catalog/product.···12080282

I have the $139 one.

Then I paid just under $10 for new in line brake levers (installed myself) and then $10 for a bike shop to adjust and lube everything since the walmart assembly is subpar.
I installed these Nashbar inline brake levers. They are more epensive now, but they were on clearance for under $10 when I bought them.
»www.nashbar.com/bikes/ProductDis···ralID=NA

It is a great, very light bike with hybrid tires.
It survived a year of hard riding in Louisiana.
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Get something that will last. Of course something you can afford, 500 is def a good ceiling. I purchased a great Schwinn all aluminum Moab ( before the brand was sold, resold, and resold) nearly 10 years ago. With yearly maintenace the bike still works great today. All I had to replace was chain, cables and tires and inner tubes.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23289834 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 11:17:09 EDT Re: Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23289756 Loco : I don't know how much my bike cost.....my wife bought it for me a few years back.

It's a "GIANT" brand name mountain bike.

I doubt it cost more than $500.00]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23289756 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 11:04:41 EDT Re: Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23289389 LittlePiggie : Walmart! $75 -$125
If you're not going to be a racer or go for 25 mile tracts then Walmart will do.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23289389 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:11:44 EDT Re: Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23289240 dibbb : It's OK, you're new here, we all misread sometimes. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23289240 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:42:10 EDT Re: Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23289236 mityfowl : Never mind :D

Need more coffee.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23289236 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:41:07 EDT Re: Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23289202 ct_mike : It is for the OP, not for the child.

I would find a local bicycle shop and look at the lower end models they have. With a budget of $500 you can get a decent bike, that will be world's better than any of the chain store bikes.

I have had both a trek and giant mountain bikes in this price range. Both served me very well.

ct_mike]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23289202 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:35:10 EDT Re: Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23289201 dibbb : This is a bike for ME.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23289201 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:35:09 EDT Re: Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23289173 mityfowl : $500 !!!

Are you crazy?

You need to think $150 or less for a 1st time rider and irresponsible kid.

My daughters 1st bike was $50.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23289173 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:30:46 EDT Need advice buying a bike http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23288676 dibbb : So I taught my kid how to ride a bike without training wheels this weekend, and now I need a bike to keep up with them.

I don't want a fancy expensive bike, but something less than $500.

Any suggestions? Or if I found a nice used one from Craigslist what should I look for?
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