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| Classification The one the EFF sued to try and get information about but the Obama Administration classified as a state secret? How's that CHANGE and transparency working out for you?
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kudos:2 | said by Time:The one the EFF sued to try and get information about but the Obama Administration classified as a state secret? How's that CHANGE and transparency working out for you? I think you misunderstood. The transparency only exists when it has to do with documents that the Bush administration refused to release 
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KearnstdElf WizardPremium
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someone needs to leak this full document on the net, wouldnt be the first time and this one getting leaked would cause no harm because it's not like its the design for a new spyplane or something important to keep hush hush.
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 knightmbEverybody Lies
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Franklin, TN | reply to Time
said by Time:The one the EFF sued to try and get information about but the Obama Administration classified as a state secret? How's that CHANGE and transparency working out for you? LOL, you guys/gals crack me up.
I would just like to point out that everyone is getting their information from a single place: Michael Geist's blog. So where is this "leaked document"? Every source I find online points back to Geist. Even the articles Geist cites at the bottom of his blog point back to him. Even Wikipedia points back to him. I'm not saying that he's wrong nor am I trying to deflate the severity of this but Geist is even relying on other sources:
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Sources say that the draft text, modeled on the U.S.-South Korea free trade agreement, focuses on following five issues...
Then following that even he says:
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If accurate ...
Doesn't leave me a whole lot of confidence that we're getting all the facts here. I would seek information better than third or fourth hand accounts of something before I went around screaming about the sky falling.
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Secret Copyright Treaty Leaks. It's Bad. Very Bad.
So where is the leaked document so that I can judge for myself?
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Billings, MT | You honestly think if everyone knew of this that they'd approve?
I'm sure we'd have a cyber-equivalent of a Civil War. |
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Hey, another Slashdotter. 
But either way, unless you are the same Slashdotter that posted the nearly identical post, I think we are going to have to count this as 'Strike 1' for you.
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join:2002-03-05 | reply to knightmb
No matter what the source, secret laws that are hashed out without the full open participation of our elected representatives are bad ideas.
This appears to be yet another step to bring the US under control of some non-elected, non-responsive, non American international board of thugs. As such it should be resisted with every fiber of our being. We are Americans; our nation and her citizens should be subject only to US laws, and not be answerable to some international body who is not charged with working in our best interest.
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Ha! You caught that too! Bet there are more cross-site lurkers then we know. |
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 HarddriveProud American and Infidel since 1968.Premium
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excuse me Mr. NOVA_Guy, but this is a 'whole world' initiative by the Office of the United States Trade Representative via the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement . |
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nitzanPremium,VIP
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kudos:2 | reply to Time
said by Time:The one the EFF sued to try and get information about but the Obama Administration classified as a state secret? How's that CHANGE and transparency working out for you? No kidding. With that useless $^$#@ in office - this kind of crap just might actually fly.
Governments need to think REAL HARD who votes for them and who can vote them out of office. Hint: it's not the corporations. |
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Billings, MT | said by nitzan:Governments need to think REAL HARD who votes for them and who can vote them out of office. Hint: it's not the corporations. Give 'em time. |
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HarddriveProud American and Infidel since 1968.Premium
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here's the actual agenda for today and tomorrow.
 tentative agenda.pdf 78121 bytes
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said by Simba7:You honestly think if everyone knew of this that they'd approve? I'm sure we'd have a cyber-equivalent of a Civil War. to bad ISP are in the middle
because people will drop there internet to a lower cheaper speed if they can not download anything
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said by nitzan:Governments need to think REAL HARD who votes for them and who can vote them out of office. Hint: it's not the corporations. No. It's the Corporations that pay the money to spin the sheeple into voting the way they want. The Government has paid attention to where it's masters are, and it's not the people. Who do you think is writing this law anyway?
The guys who are all for this type of stuff are getting ready to regain power anyway.
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kudos:2 | Governments still need to keep up a facade of being "for the people". They can't completely screw us without even pretending to care about us. This WILL come back and bite whoever votes for this - if it even gets to a vote. (it shouldn't) |
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| yeah, right. like the average person remembers anything these days. only the ones of us that are technically savy will remember a vote like this. the knowledgeable digital rights citizen is a minority. the average voting numb-nutz won't care cause they'll dismiss it cause its a non-issue to them because they don't understand digital rights (like we ever had any).
and in 2050 when i'm 92 and some young 20-something whipper snapper posts something about digital rights on this board, i'll snap back at him saying that his great-great-grandparents gave it all away during the Bush/Obama Administrations because their old, assisted living asses were more concerned about Social Security, Medicare, and prescription drug options rather than the 12:00 that had been flashing on their ancient VCRs for 20 years.
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knightmbEverybody Lies
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Franklin, TN | reply to thevorpal
said by thevorpal:Hey, another Slashdotter. But either way, unless you are the same Slashdotter that posted the nearly identical post, I think we are going to have to count this as 'Strike 1' for you. A good joke I heard on slashdot one time.
"I have 100s of slashdot accounts all with perfect karma and moderator points"
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