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| Danger Will Robinson People need to understand how dangerous this is. This will be a "international treaty" which means it completely supersedes any US law (net neutrality, privacy, etc.) In many circumstances treaty law even supersedes the US Constitution.
As a bonus, it only needs to be signed by the President and approved by the Senate. The House of Representatives has no say, and the US Courts have no jurisdiction. You are already seeing one of the advantages of "treaty law" as opposed to "legislative law" Treaty negotiations can be done completely in secret with no disclosure rules, no Freedom of Information requests, etc. Something that is very different from legislative deliberations.
This is an end run around our democratic system of government and citizen rights protected by the courts. A brilliant maneuver by the RIAA, if you ask me. | |
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Billings, MT | Re: Danger Will Robinson Yep. The MPAA/RIAA will be in control of everything and it'll be the end of the internet as we know it. As far as the MPAA/RIAA is concerned, dialup was perfect for everyone.
Looks like I'll be putting my ol' BBS back together really soon. | |
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New Orleans, LA | Re: Danger Will Robinson I am surprised that those groups still are trying to fight a battle that IMO they just won't win.
I am not saying give up but they aren't going to just stop piracy all together | |
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| Re: Danger Will Robinson they will win to a degree. the stupid sheeple will obey and not question it. the smart people will circumvent, invent, and continue to get what they want, when they want it.
but if they think that some 16 yr old with a netbook on an open Wi-Fi access point gives a shit about some 'Treaty', the MPAA/RIAA/US Government has a lot to learn.
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1 edit | At last somebody gets it. If the RIAA had it's way we would still be forced to purchase 45's. and anything thing that could record anything would be banned or taxed with the proceeds going to the recording industry. We are dealing with an industry that rips-off it's contractors, they are not called musicians, is corrupt, and has behavior not unlike organized crime this is their SOP and has been their SOP more then 60 years.
I wonder how they are going to control the mail when we start to mail blueray CD's with 30 or more gig's of music on them to each other, oh of course they will want a tax on these disks.
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| Re: Danger Will Robinson remember all the fuss 'they' threw about VHS/Beta recorders? same type of product but in a digital world that just happens to be more easily obtainable.
if the entertainment industry could go back to pre-8 track recordablity & pre-VHS or Beta recordablity, they would. they don't know how to think when i comes to advancing their product via any new technology medium.
as far as mailing media discs with gigs of music on them through the mail. too late for them on that. people have been doing it already to keep prying internet eyes off of people's collections of entertainment media.
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| | | TransmasterDon't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
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Cheyenne, WY | Re: Danger Will Robinson How well I remember the fuss over the VCR. the pissing and moaning was incredible. Then they found out these same players could play tapes of all of the old movies they had been sitting on, very poorly as it turned out, and the discovered a new market for these old works, at least the ones that where left. It sparked a whole industry of restoration and marketing of these old movies.
The music industry is even worse. they are sitting on 60 plus years of recordings. most of which are not available in any format for sale. Yet they piss and moan when somebody has to bootleg a copy so they can at least hear something. I enjoy Kay Kyser the big band director he recorded numerous records, and Radio shows. The masters are out there but try to find and of his stuff presently. The only way to get them is if somebody shares them online.
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Jacksonville, FL | If this treaty is enforced as well as all of the other treaties we have agreed to over the years, I would say it doesn't have a chance.
Ask the American Indians!
Ask the Americans in 1812 when the British broke the Treaty of Paris.
Need something more recent?
Ask our preferred trade partners in China, (via the WTO Treaty) home to the .99 first run DVD. (GI Joe anyone?)
Hah! Ask Microsoft about .99 Windows 7 DVD's in Hong Kong!
If this flies, the market for private VPN clouds will burst (no pun). | |
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